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Old 07-28-2008, 03:36 PM   #31
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Unfortunately, we in Asia has no chance of purchasing Bickfords...they don't ship to Asia...
is it?I heard from my frds seem they happen to see it in sg ntuc supermarket I not sure...

maybe my frd saw wrongly

if got time I will take a look.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:13 PM   #32
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What you're looking for will be found in a grocery store. It's used to flavor cookies, cakes and sweets. It's called an extract, and while we use Bickfords here in the States, you can use any other one that doesn't contain oil. The extracts come in little bottles and are not at all expensive. The ones we use have propylene glycol as a base, so they are very much like commercial e-liquids. Those with water-alcohol also seem safe to you and your e-cig.

You can (and I think should) mix an extract with commercial e-liquid or vegetable glycerine, a sweet substance that you'll find in a health food store. The final fluid will be about half flavoring, half e-liquid. Use it just as you would any e-liquid. Put it in cartridges or drip it on to the the atomizer. It makes lots of vapor and tastes good. When you mix extract with e-liquid, you lower the nicotine content of the final fluid. You have "cut" the nicotine strength by mixing in something without nicotine.

I really prefer the taste of these mixes to those available as commercial e-liquid. These can taste as strong as you want, with a little experimentation. I like vanilla. I like Kahlua (coffee flavor). You pick an extract with a flavor you like.

If you make a new mix from half extract and half 16mg e-liquid, you'll end up with a mix that is about 8mg in nicotine strength. You will have moved from "high" to "medium" nicotine strength and it will taste much better. You can smoke it much longer without unwanted side effects. And, yes, you can smoke it all by itself if you don't have commercial e-liquid. Some on this forum smoke just extract. I find that a big strong, personally.

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Old 07-28-2008, 04:51 PM   #33
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What you're looking for will be found in a grocery store. It's used to flavor cookies, cakes and sweets. It's called an extract, and while we use Bickfords here in the States, you can use any other one that doesn't contain oil. The extracts come in little bottles and are not at all expensive. The ones we use have propylene glycol as a base, so they are very much like commercial e-liquids. Those with water-alcohol also seem safe to you and your e-cig.

You can (and I think should) mix an extract with commercial e-liquid or vegetable glycerine, a sweet substance that you'll find in a health food store. The final fluid will be about half flavoring, half e-liquid. Use it just as you would any e-liquid. Put it in cartridges or drip it on to the the atomizer. It makes lots of vapor and tastes good. When you mix extract with e-liquid, you lower the nicotine content of the final fluid. You have "cut" the nicotine strength by mixing in something without nicotine.

I really prefer the taste of these mixes to those available as commercial e-liquid. These can taste as strong as you want, with a little experimentation. I like vanilla. I like Kahlua (coffee flavor). You pick an extract with a flavor you like.

If you make a new mix from half extract and half 16mg e-liquid, you'll end up with a mix that is about 8mg in nicotine strength. You will have moved from "high" to "medium" nicotine strength and it will taste much better. You can smoke it much longer without unwanted side effects. And, yes, you can smoke it all by itself if you don't have commercial e-liquid. Some on this forum smoke just extract. I find that a big strong, personally.
wow bob thanks for so much info,
personally I still got the cart ..just that I don;t wish to order again kinda troublesome have to wait ect..

I know it don;t have nicotine..just flavours..

I believe I not sure I am weird here..
and I like to try new stuffs...

overall summary what i know can use this stuffs which used to flavor cookies, cakes and sweets
and purely just drop to cotton wool and smoke it?
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:30 PM   #34
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That's it. For a small cartridge, a drop or two will do. You'll soon have a better taste, too.

Just be sure you don't buy an extract with oil in it. You want water and alcohol, or flavor and propylene glycol.
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That's it. For a small cartridge, a drop or two will do. You'll soon have a better taste, too.

Just be sure you don't buy an extract with oil in it. You want water and alcohol, or flavor and propylene glycol.
so u mean can use purely the flavours rite?

drop to the atomiser

hmm I was thinking and soak it in cotten wool in the cart?

don;t expect ppl when outside always do the dripping??
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You can drip directly on the atomizer, or you can drip it down into your cartridge. If you overdo it, it'll leak into your mouth, however, so only drip a drop or two into your cartridge. A few drops will equal a cigarette break. If you drip on the atomizer, pull the cartridge piece off your mouthpiece and then stick the mouthpiece back in place and use it that way. If you're going on a break, drip the atomizer, leave the cartridge on your desk, and go enjoy your e-smoke break.
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You can drip directly on the atomizer, or you can drip it down into your cartridge. If you overdo it, it'll leak into your mouth, however, so only drip a drop or two into your cartridge. A few drops will equal a cigarette break. If you drip on the atomizer, pull the cartridge piece off your mouthpiece and then stick the mouthpiece back in place and use it that way. If you're going on a break, drip the atomizer, leave the cartridge on your desk, and go enjoy your e-smoke break.
sorry bob

my english is kinda poor ,

what I mean can I dip the liquid in the used cotton wool in the cart
and same ..suck from the mouth piece?

example if go out to town
don;t tell me I have to always dip whenever I have to smoke?
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Oh boy. Hmmmm. Drip on the atomizer. Or ... Drip on the cartridge. Do it ahead of time. You will get 15 or so real great clouds of vapor from that dripping. That's about the same number of puffs you get on a cigarette break.

Three drops = maybe 15 or 20 big puffs of vapor.
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Oh boy. Hmmmm. Drip on the atomizer. Or ... Drip on the cartridge. Do it ahead of time. You will get 15 or so real great clouds of vapor from that dripping. That's about the same number of puffs you get on a cigarette break.

Three drops = maybe 15 or 20 big puffs of vapor.
wow cool! I like big vapor! and strong flavour
so if I soak the whole used cotton wool with it
will last how long?

the e liquid I so far tasted all flavours ect
all seem the same taste to me! only flavours ones do sound abit different but still the same I don;t feel the menthol kick I used to smoke my real menthol cig .

next the extract is it healthy??to use often?will gain weight??I am a gym freak sometimes

problem now I have to scout my supermarket find this brand

beside this brand still any brands to recommand?

next is it a "must" to store this products in frig???and put inside cupboard?under room temp?

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haha this is a funny thread... our dear fish here is a post count warrior....

and btw fish... take it easy man... treat the e-cig like a real cigarette... dun over use it.....

and i've checked a few flavouring extracts i have at home liao but the manufacturer did not indicate the ingredients.... if i'm not wrong what you need to look for in the ingredients is: propylene glycol, water, flavouring..... NO OIL.... if i'm not wrong....

let me know if you find any..
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