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Smoke alarm goes off with ecig in Health and Medical Issues; Originally Posted by Faethe Cash said that when he went into the toilet on a plane and had a drag, ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faethe View Post
    Cash said that when he went into the toilet on a plane and had a drag, the smoke alarm went off. That would explain it. He made it through with his citizenship intact as well
    Next time, tell him to breath into his shirt... It is not like anyone will smell "Smoke", after he is finished...

    Or try some gum, or snus...

    Or cover the detector with a "Hello, my name is..." sticker... (Remove it when done!)

    Smoke detectors in the airplane bathrooms were installed to detect smokers, not fires. How many times has the toilet-paper spontaneously combusted while wiping? (Seriously, you would not notice a fire in a bathroom, and that would require a detection to alert you... In that small of a space!)
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    Whew! Good to know. My office has a giant Hayline system that sucks the air out of the room (and my lungs) if the fire alarm is activated. Guess I'll just keep puffing light.

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    I can't see these things producing any CO gas, but just to make sure I'll pull a meter off one of the fire engines tomorrow(today? oh crap I forgot to go to sleep agian) and vape into it and get the readings for you guys. I'll also have someone blow an analog into the unit as well to get a comparison. Somebody PM me to remind me though in case I pass out before then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fog Cutter View Post
    Whew! Good to know. My office has a giant Hayline system that sucks the air out of the room (and my lungs) if the fire alarm is activated. Guess I'll just keep puffing light.
    Do you mean Halon? If so buy an oxygen mask!


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    I was attending an NHS 'stop smoking' course whilst chain vaping a 510 and a silver bullet, and every week the CO tests showed as minimal (2 thru 4) as opposed to 30 - 36 whilst I smoked. Vaping does not produce CO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanetScribbles View Post
    I was attending an NHS 'stop smoking' course whilst chain vaping a 510 and a silver bullet, and every week the CO tests showed as minimal (2 thru 4) as opposed to 30 - 36 whilst I smoked. Vaping does not produce CO.
    That's quite reassuring. Means there isn't CO binding to hemoglobin and reducing exercise endurance (as smoking analogs does - it reduces your blood oxygen carrying capacity).

    I've been worrying friends with how long my vapor sticks around - they say "that doesn't look like water vapor, it behaves like smoke!" Is this a common thing with VG juice? That the vapor doesn't immediately dissipate?

    I have a smoke detector right above my desk so I'm getting a touch worried that if I set it off, Maintenance is going to see my vaping "paraphernalia" right below!

    Of course, there's also the nasty smoky-taste of a burning atomizer that gets me worried the vapor'll be picked up as smoke, but I'm trying to keep that from happening... Just got my first HV mod and it's a quest to keep the atty happy.

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    What types of smoke alarms are available on the market?
    There are two types of household smoke alarms in common use. These are known as ionization or photoelectric type smoke alarms.


    How does an ionization type smoke alarm work?
    This type of alarm uses a small amount of radioactive material to ionize air in the sensing chamber. As a result, the air chamber becomes conductive permitting current to flow between two charged electrodes. When smoke particles enter the chamber, the conductivity of the chamber air decreases. When this reduction in conductivity is reduced to a predetermined level, the alarm is set off. Most smoke alarms in use are of this type.


    How does a photoelectric type smoke alarm work?
    A photoelectric type smoke alarm consists of a light emitting diode and a light sensitive sensor in the sensing chamber. The presence of suspended smoke particles in the chamber scatters the light beam. This scattered light is detected and sets off the alarm.




    Just from this info on how smoke detectors operate, It seems "particulates" cause both sensor types to activate. Although vaping doesn't produce smoke, the vapor can be considered to be made up of paticulates. If you blew the vapor DIRECTLY on the smoke detector(while it's still visible and in it's particulate form); it stands to reason the detector would react to the particulate vapor. I would imagine there would be little to no chance of a smoke detector activating with vaping, unless you directly blew the vapor at the detector or you were in a small enough enclosure to allow the vapor to reach the detector in tact .
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    I vape in airplane bathrooms all the time. Never set a detector off. The secret is to not vape hard and produce a huge cloud of vapor. I close the toilet lid, sit down and blow all the vapor down and away from the detector (up on the ceiling by the door). I also wait a bit between vapes to make sure it all dissapates before the next hit. Another thing that helps is holding the sink drain open. They tend to have a bit of a vacuum which helps suck the vapor out. Like I said, I've been doing it since I started vaping and I fly alot!!

    VERY nice for long flights!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madame Psychosis View Post
    That's quite reassuring. Means there isn't CO binding to hemoglobin and reducing exercise endurance (as smoking analogs does - it reduces your blood oxygen carrying capacity).

    I've been worrying friends with how long my vapor sticks around - they say "that doesn't look like water vapor, it behaves like smoke!" Is this a common thing with VG juice? That the vapor doesn't immediately dissipate?

    I have a smoke detector right above my desk so I'm getting a touch worried that if I set it off, Maintenance is going to see my vaping "paraphernalia" right below!

    Of course, there's also the nasty smoky-taste of a burning atomizer that gets me worried the vapor'll be picked up as smoke, but I'm trying to keep that from happening... Just got my first HV mod and it's a quest to keep the atty happy.
    You will never get a zero reading due to ambient pollution in the air, and such like. The figure I achieved is the same figure a non-smoker would aim to achieve so i'm cool with that, being that my first CO reading was 39

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    How close were you to the alarm when it went off?

    It may sound elementary, but we exhale CO2. That, combined with oxygen displacement
    from the vapor, could have set it off. (?)
    My article on Electronic Cigarettes
    http://richardmccord.com/advice/electronic-cigarettes/

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