A germ-killing vapor

[Kate]

I've heard people saying that the filler in their cartridges changes colour after a while and suspect that can't be a good thing. Some folk do replace the filler and clean mouthpieces. I don't use cartridges myself, I just drip directly onto the atomiser.

Here's some more discussion about safety that might interest you - How valid are vaping health claims?

[TropicalBob]

Assuming that PG can do what it's alleged to do (i.e., works as a germicidal inside the lungs when vaped with an e-cig), suddenly there's a whole new line of defense in regards to bacterial superinfection. If the lungs can be treated directly, with a germicidal vapor such as PG, it seems reasonable to think that if the dosage were correct, a significant number of bacterial pneumonia infections could be averted and/or treated with direct administration, i.e., inhalation of a PG vapor.

Bless you. And I'm with you. I so wish some would stop this running in circles and waving our hands and shouting "what about PG", what about "the dangers." They are threatened with suffocation under the science, yet they doubt on ....

I've had bacterial pneumonia twice (once when I was 7 and once when I was 25), and it's absolutely horrible. If PG has the possibility of preventing it from possibly killing me, I'm more than willing to take that chance.

Amen. And count me in that group.

[happily]

I've heard people saying that the filler in their cartridges changes colour after a while and suspect that can't be a good thing. Some folk do replace the filler and clean mouthpieces. I don't use cartridges myself, I just drip directly onto the atomiser.

Here's some more discussion about safety that might interest you - How valid are vaping health claims?

I'm done with WHAT IF's. I just removed 3996 chemicals from my body. I also removed inhaling burnt leaves and smoke. Until someone can show me that vaping is bad I am done with what if. I am absolutely positive that smoking was bad. 100% positive

good article

[doctormidnight]

Bless you. And I'm with you. I so wish some would stop this running in circles and waving our hands and shouting "what about PG", what about "the dangers." They are threatened with suffocation under the science, yet they doubt on ....

Oh, I don't know. A healthy dose of skepticism is always good. Skepticism without rationality, on the other hand, is awkwardly amusing and coincidentally self-defeating but I have to get my entertainment from somewhere.

[Nate]

I am absolutely positive that smoking was bad. 100% positive

Exactly. I'm also 100% posiitive that vaping nicotine is bad for me... but I trust it is less bad than smoking. At this point, vaping really is a matter of weighing a known risk versus something we believe is safer.

[Vocalek]

Exactly. I'm also 100% posiitive that vaping nicotine is bad for me... but I trust it is less bad than smoking. At this point, vaping really is a matter of weighing a known risk versus something we believe is safer.

What facts or research convinced you that vaping nicotine is bad for you? I looked, but couldn't really find anything that definitely told me this would be harmful.

[LittleOralFix]

What facts or research convinced you that vaping nicotine is bad for you? I looked, but couldn't really find anything that definitely told me this would be harmful.

I think the key word there is nicotine.

I think the harder thing to do would be to find a currant study not "pay for results" from big tobacco that shows nicotine is NOT harmful.

People believe nicotine is healthy? huh?

[TaketheRedPill]

What facts or research convinced you that vaping nicotine is bad for you? I looked, but couldn't really find anything that definitely told me this would be harmful.

google 'nicotine and small cell lung carcenoma'

also, google 'Vitamin A and smokers ex/smokers" and google "vitamin E and male smokers ex-smokers"

Vitamin A intake =300%+ increase in chance of developing cancer in smokers, even if they stop smoking (google for studies; add'l confirming source: MD team, Kaiser Permanente [HMO], Sacramento, CA); Vitamin E intake = increased risk of prostate cancer in male smokers, even if they stop smoking (source: various studies see: google)

[Vocalek]

I think the key word there is nicotine.

I think the harder thing to do would be to find a currant study not "pay for results" from big tobacco that shows nicotine is NOT harmful.

People believe nicotine is healthy? huh?

Take a look at Nicotine and addiction. (tobaccoharmreduction.org)

Do I believer that nicotine is "heatlhy"? That depends on what you are trying to do with it. If you are pregnant, best leave it alone if you can. If you have depression that is not responding to antidepressant medication, nicotine can help. If you have Alzheimer's or Attention Deficit Disorder, nicotine may be able to help--especially if you can't take the usual prescription medications due to medical contraindications or high costs.

There is no such thing as a medical study that proves any substance 100% safe. Can't be done. Even Dihydrogen Monoxide can kill.

[samysam1313]

Hi everyone. I'm new here and doing research on ecigs. Just read this whole thread. Lots of things to consider concerning PG. I have to thank all those who contributed. Especially TropicalBob for his research. I've done a bit of research myself and haven't been able to find any real negatives about PG so far, except for the fact that some people have a sensitivity to it and that it can be an irritant to some. I continue my research, but I am coming to the conclusion that PG and ecigs in general are a much healthier alternative to real cigs. I hope this thread will continue. I am very interested in the health aspects in relation to ecigs, since I have health issues myself.

I have found a web site for PG and have posted some of the highlights under Health,Safety, and E Smoking. Seems we've had PG in a multitude of products for the last 50 yrs. including in our food. If Pg is not harmful in these products, then I don't see why it would not be the same for ecigs. Although I do realize that there has not been much research done concerning inhalation of it, what has been researched does seem pretty positive. I understand the concern of those who posted about the viruses and bugs mutating into super bugs. Guess e smokers are now the lab rats where inhaling PG is concerned. I look at it this way. We are constantly exposed to all kinds of toxins in our invironment today and in that sense, we are already all lab rats. We already know the negatives of smoking real cigarettes today, so I figure PG is no more a risk then anything else we're exposed to and certainly can't be any worse than inhaling the 4,000 plus chemicals we breath in when we smoke real cigarettes. I am making a guess, but an educated one. E smoking is in it's infancy. If we were to never try anything new because there are risks involved, then we would never move forward. Life is a risk. It's a matter of choosing the path that contains as little risk as possible and from what I have learned so far, ecigs seem to be that path where smoking is concerned. The best way to minimise risk is to educate ourselves and make decisions based on that. I have decided to try these ecigarettes based on my research and am waiting for mine to arrive. I am grateful for these forums as they have helped me to find the information I needed to make my decision.