A germ-killing vapor

[bishybob]

Something else the original post makes me wonder...
If PG is antibacterial. Wouldn't that help bad breath? Isn't a lot of bad breath is caused by bacteria. Also if it kills viruses... It could prevent herpes and cold sores. Also sinus infections. Just make sure to exhale the vapor out of your nose.

[kramerica2]

To tell you the truth, the PG being a germicide concerns me much more than if it didn't do anything. Even if we assume that it doesn't kill any friendly bacteria, I think that it must weaken our immune system. It's like being 100% of the time in a sterile environment. What do you think will happen the second you'll go outside? This also might be the case if for any reason we'll stop e-smoking.....

[windblown]

Has anyone checked their ph levels lately?

For the last few years, I have kept a roll of ph test tape on hand, and frequently do a check of acid/alkaline levels .

Since I began e-smoking, an oral ph check has consistently measured in the extreme alkaline range of the scale. Prior to e-smoking, it was usually on the acidic end. I also tested a PG-based e-liquid by itself....it was in the neutral range.

Somewhere along the way, the neutral PG appears to be transforming into alkaline saliva.

If it is true that viruses cannot live in an alkaline environment, and if e-smoking is causing the alkaline ph tests, then......heck, wish I'd stayed awake during chemistry class.

[apachedug]

I spent a good hour last night reading this entire thread, and while all the talk about glycol was encouraging, there's been somethiing I've been wondering about since Day 1;

Is the glycol from these carts building up residue in our lungs like the tar from cigarettes?

I feel fairly safe that it's not cancerous, but that's not my concern; for awhile after I quit cigarettes, I was (excuse my bluntness) coughing up some junk. Then it stopped...

But 3 weeks later, and I am doing the occasional 'coughing up junk' again. I'm just wondering if its my lungs in another stage of self-cleaning after 29 years of smoking, or am I accumulating some type of gel down there?

Anyone else wonder or worry about this? Or have any clue?

[phylo]

Originally Posted by apachedug

I spent a good hour last night reading this entire thread, and while all the talk about glycol was encouraging, there's been somethiing I've been wondering about since Day 1;

Is the glycol from these carts building up residue in our lungs like the tar from cigarettes?

I feel fairly safe that it's not cancerous, but that's not my concern; for awhile after I quit cigarettes, I was (excuse my bluntness) coughing up some junk. Then it stopped...

But 3 weeks later, and I am doing the occasional 'coughing up junk' again. I'm just wondering if its my lungs in another stage of self-cleaning after 29 years of smoking, or am I accumulating some type of gel down there?

Anyone else wonder or worry about this? Or have any clue?

That is a good question! Has anyone else had the same behavior? I personally have not after over 4 months of using my e-cigs daily and only having the very occasional cigarette.

Phil

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Every now and then I get a snotty nose. Back in the day I'd have put that down to catarrh, but not now. Probably a summer cold. But we're hoping PG will knock that on it's ass, right?

Mystified Emp

[DeviLFisH]

I feel the effect of overdose?PG which cause lactic acid build up?

cos I found myself not strength on workout .

[TropicalBob]

Emp: Colds are caused by rhinoviruses, and I didn't see them listed in the research papers. Pneumonia, yes; influenza, yes; colds, who knows.

My correspondence with Dr. Laugesen continues, with the recent focus on whether propylene glycol is most effective as a gas, vapor, mist or aerosol. The differences would be size of the droplets. From the research, the vapor form appears to be best. And that's how we get it. We also get it in saturated form (a fog), with a concentration sufficient to kill bacteria. Note in one reference how the delivery system used in 1941 resembles our atomizers!

I highlighted some material in two research papers for Dr. Laugesen and will post links to the papers here (moved them to my old Web site). Just scan for the yellow highlights and read them. Also, if you haven't seen the photos, go to the very bottom of the first linked page and check out what happened when bacteria were exposed to PG vapor.

http://www.karr-tv.com/pgvapor2.pdf
http://www.karr-tv.com/PGvapor.pdf

[Nazareth]

antibiotics don't help colds- but not sure about germicidals, it would seem that it owuld, but not sure?

also devilfish- stop worrying yourself- you're goign to have a nervous breakdown- lactic acidosis is a very rare issue- the chances of it happening are very low- you most likely were just having an off day

[Nazareth]

Originally Posted by TheEmperorOfIceCream

Every now and then I get a snotty nose. Back in the day I'd have put that down to catarrh, but not now. Probably a summer cold. But we're hoping PG will knock that on it's ass, right?

Mystified Emp

PG and soem Zircam in the nose at first sign of cold- stuff works great