Blood Pressure and E-Cigs

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

Had a routine BP check about three weeks ago (I take medication to control hypertension). I'm in the middle of a stressful situation at work, and I've been esmoking copiously so I was expecting to see elevated levels but it was absolutely normal.

Not looking to draw any particular conclusion here, just throwing it into the mix

Emp

[kramerica2]

Perhaps another throw: Not scientific in any way, but after a cigarette, I've always felt my heart rate accelerates a bit. I don't have that feeling with e-smoking...

[icemanmaz]

When I started on the e-cig my heart rate went sky high.
My battery had run out and the spare was still charging.
Don't worry its back to normal now I got a spare battery and a spare charger.

[TropicalBob]

Nicotine accelerates heart rate. The reason you don't get the same heart kick as from tobacco cigarettes is because you're getting significantly less nicotine with each e-inhalation. Your heart rate and blood pressure still rise, but not enough for you to notice. E-smoke during your next doctor's visit and let him/her monitor you. You'll see the effect of nicotine.

[kramerica2]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

you're getting significantly less nicotine with each e-inhalation

Are you sure about that? It seems to me that on the contrary, e-puff delivers more nicotine than a puff. I'm saying that for 2 reasons:
1. The nic hit in the throat is much stronger with a e-puff.
2. Let's say each cig contains 0.9 mg of nicotine. 11 puffs = 1 cig, so each puff delivers about 0.08 mg of nicotine. Let's take a regular e-cig cart containing 18 mg. From my experience, it lasts about 150 e-puffs, so each e-puff delivers about 0.12 mg of nicotine. That's more than a puff. Add that to the claim that the intake of nicotine from e-cig is much higher than a regular cig (where according to the Dr. a lot of the nic is lost), and you get a lot more nic per e-puff.

Of-course, I might be totally wrong... do you have another explanation?

[katink]

I find that any calculation using puffs is a method that gives awfully subjective, so in fact uncomparable, results. Just to illustrate: when smoking tobacco I need around 30 (!) puffs per cig to finish it... put that next to the 10 you might be using, or the 15 a next user may be using... This gives distortions in the outcome of up to 300%... I think a method is needed thatis objective and doesn't lead to wide differences per user; else it gets simply impossible to make any comparison that even faintly rings true...

You can easilly find your own usage while using a far more objective so same for all method as follows:
- Take how many cigs you smoked per day on average. Look on the pack to see how much nicotine is in each cig. Multiply. Ok, now you have your nicotine-number you were on before going to e-smoking.
- Now, find out how many ml's e-liquid you are using each day (refill an empty and washed out then dried core if you don't know how much your cores hold - the mini's differ per style and brand between 0.1 ml and 0.5 ml; pens are always around 1 ml, cigars also; pipe is around 2.2 to 2.5 ml per cartridge); and what strength you are using. Remember, mg nicotine is always per one ml... so if you have say a strength of 12 mg, and use one cart of 0.5 ml, you will get 6 mg nicotine in. This way you can see how many mg's nicotine you are using per day through e-smoking. (Use a syringe with clear 0.1 ml markings to discover how much each core takes, if your core-content is not clear from the list above).


Now you have a clean figure to go from, a figure that you got to by using the same method for each user.
I think you will see different figures from what you are looking at now... not saying you won't be able to see anyone using more nicotine now then they did before through this method: but it is a lót more objective figure then, one you can make true comparisons with... and if your intake now is higher then it used to be... then it might be time to adjust your nicotine strength for instance (though you could also choose to just e-smoke less of course: different routes available).

You can fine-tune your intake much better (and especially: more accurately) this way, I find.

[kramerica2]

Katink, you are absolutely right, and I also didn't know that the nicotine amount was per 1 ml, I thought that it's per 1 cart.

[clavit]

And just to confuse the subject even further, the nic level printed on cigarette packs is only useful in comparing different brands. The actual nic intake can be a lot more!
I believe Dr. Laugesens report used an average of 2.0 mg per cigarette when comparing with e-cigs. So i'm guessing actual intake can be anything from 0.5 to 3.0 mg per cigarette!

[kramerica2]

Originally Posted by clavit

And just to confuse the subject even further, the nic level printed on cigarette packs is only useful in comparing different brands. The actual nic intake can be a lot more!
I believe Dr. Laugesens report used an average of 2.0 mg per cigarette when comparing with e-cigs. So i'm guessing actual intake can be anything from 0.5 to 3.0 mg per cigarette!

I give up... Hopefully, if e-cigs would eventually be known as harmful, it won't be too late for us guinea pigs...

[TropicalBob]

Refer to Dr. Laugesen's two interim reports. The range per puff is one-half to one-fifth the nic of a cigarette, given equal size puffs. No way is anyone claiming the e-cig puff delivers as much nicotine as a regular cigarette. It just doesn't. In clinical testing.