Inhaling PG - perhaps not the great unknown after all

[margouillat]

Hi Gtorichie

I ask myself a question: if the SNUS is prohibited for sale in the EU, it must be forbidden to buy it?

Does the SNUS had an impact on your consumption of cigarettes?

[GTOrichie]

should realy move any snus related questions to the "Other Alternatives to Smoking" section but yes I quit smoking cigs all together when I switched to snus exept the odd cigar now and then. if you have any more suns questions aks away in the other section and I will be glad to answer any questions,

as for PG from what I have read in medical reports it has been used for fixed dose inhaleors, used in nebulisers as a stabaliser and propellant for some types of lung administerd drugs and it's been used as a plecebo on some kids that have mentaly induced asthma with no serious side afects apart from the odd person that shows an alergy.

[Nazareth]

I dunno Emp- we're now inhaling very large quantities of PG or Glycerin or both. In ciggs, I'm not the amounts were really enough to make a difference. This PG might be ok, but I still think it should be labbelled as 'unknown' in regards to effects simply because of the amounts we're inhaling on a steady regular basis now.

[Nazareth]

Originally Posted by igglepiggle

How dare you condone the testing of such a product on monkeys. If you are stupid enough to inhale crap into your lungs then you be the goddam monkey. You are a disgrace.

animals are animals- give it a rest- Animal testign has saved billions of lives of humans- a MUCH more valuable species than simple animals- Cripes- cry me a river!@ intentional meaningless animal abuse is one hting- animal testign to save the lives of a much more valuable higher form of creation is quite another. your comment shows that you know absolutely nothign abotu addiction or psychology, and therefore you are unqualified to comment one way or the other as to whether or not we are smart or otherwise-

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

It's cumulative though, Naz, decades for some of us, and the monks loved it, so I'm easier in my mind. Some of the white spaces on the map are being filled in.

Emp

[Nazareth]

If I had a mind, I spose it woudl be eased, but since that itsn't the case, there's nothign there to ease lol

[TheEmperorOfIceCream]

smoked your brains out, huh? Told you not to do four packs worth of fags in three hours...

[Nazareth]

since i can't eddit my post to igglepiggly- I'll repost my update noodlings abotu hte situation here:

Originally Posted by igglepiggle

How dare you condone the testing of such a product on monkeys. If you are stupid enough to inhale crap into your lungs then you be the goddam monkey. You are a disgrace.

animals are animals- give it a rest- Animal testign has saved billions of lives of humans- a MUCH more valuable species than simple animals- Cripes- cry me a river!@ intentional meaningless animal abuse is one hting- animal testign to save the lives of a much more valuable higher form of creation is quite another. your comment shows that you know absolutely nothign abotu addiction or psychology, and therefore you are unqualified to comment one way or the other as to whether or not we are smart or otherwise- noone is advocating testign animals for no purpose, but rather to help addicts wean themselves off a dangerous drug that htey have UNFORTUNATELY becoem addicted to- it appears that you would rather billions of people die from the harmful effects of cigarettes simply because you htink they are 'stupid', than to allow testign that could save billions of lives- and just for hte record PG testign on animals has been BENIFICIAL to them- just as the researchers suspected it woudl be before they even concidered startign hte testing- Take you extremist bleedign heart opinions elsewhere- We aint interested!!!

[Mr.Darcy]

well to be honest ive never been worried about inhaling PG or VG...because the only alternative for me is cigarette smoke...and its surely infinitely safer than that...so why worry?
what choice do we have?

im not losin any sleep over it anyway...

[TropicalBob]

Naz: Note the extreme restraint I exhibited. I saw that post. I wrote a wicked reply, then erased it.

I'd much rather discuss PG. The research not only convinced me of its safety in our practice, but that it likely confers incredible benefits. More on that in the other post later.