You constantly post the negatives about ecigs. Here is my question to you..if you are so concerned with your health then why did you smoke and continue to use such a "harmful" substance like nicotine? If you truly cared about yourself, you would stop everything.
"Cigarette smoking can nevertheless trigger the development of cancer, stresses Chellappan. By-products of nicotine and other compounds are to blame, though, rather than nicotine itself." - Guess you need to read How nicotine helps cancer grow - health - 21 July 2006 - New Scientist a little better huh?
Originally Posted by BardicDruid
"To determine whether nicotine works on the cellular level to promote breast cancer growth, Yuan-Soon Ho, Ph.D., of the Taipei Medical University, and colleagues, looked at 276 breast tumor samples from anonymous donors to the Taipei Medical University Hospital, to see whether subunits of the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor were overexpressed in breast cancer cells compared with surrounding normal cells. "
"The authors write: “These results imply that receptor-mediated carcinogenic signals play a decisive role in biological functions related to human breast cancer development.” "
"it has been demonstrated that nicotine promotes the growth of solid tumors in vivo, suggesting that nicotine might be contributing to the progression of tumors already initiated"
Yes, I see now. They ARE all about smoking cigarettes. You are correct.
I guess my reading comprehension must be off. My mistake.
You are much smarter than me. Thank you so much for putting me in my place
Last edited by nomadman; 08-01-2011 at 03:38 PM.
Yes, and those benefits are still true today. I was just saying. No need to be a Negative Nancy on a pro-vaping forum. derp! I think that's why everyone thinks you're a troll. It's like going to a vegetarian forum, and posting about the benefits of eating meat. Someone's been dippin in the FDA Kool-aid.
Originally Posted by nomadman
Yep, according to that article nicotine may cause cancer to grow quick. For those that may have cancer that is important news.
Originally Posted by hairball
But the 2010 article states:
"The authors write: “These results imply that receptor-mediated carcinogenic signals play a decisive role in biological functions related to human breast cancer development.”
So the more recent research indicates that Chellappan may have been wrong in his statement. Again with the dates...
Originally Posted by illillillillilli
I do not see the original post as negative, but offering up information that is relevant to this section of the forums. If you don't like it then that is a personal problem.
I don't know the long the term effects of vegetables, fish, eggs, red meat or ecigs.
I do know ecigs have tangible short term benefits.
Small samples not statistically relevant. In my circle I've lost too many non-smokers to cancer and the smokers died of other causes.
I feel COPD is less likely w/ ecigs and cancer is caused by about everything.
Good luck on finding what doesn't cause cancer.
I agree with the limitations of the small sample size, but it does indicate that future research should be done. COPD is also my biggest fear from analogs. I am an avid outdoorsman and not being able to breath scares the hell out of me.
Originally Posted by emus
I've about lost hope w/ research due to money trail corruption and data cherry picking to support bias.
unless I'm mistaken, just about everything on earth can cause/promote some form of cancer.. I understand that we should be careful about things that are bad for us, but MY own opinion is that when I consider all the crap that I inhaled from all of the inhale-able crap I've used, e-cigs seem to be the least offensive. I'd be willing to bet that e-cigs are better for me than my energy drink, or my coke zero. it's all a matter of perspective I guess. my perspective is that this is WAY better for me than anything else I've done before. including quitting smoking analogs with no "aids" or whatever.. when I quit smoking I turned into a Psychotic raving lunatic. enough so that once, the owner of a company I worked for (who is a total non-smoker and detests everything about it) walked into my office, threw 5$ on my desk and said "go buy yourself some smokes.. I can't deal with the amount of a-hole you are"
that's just my opinion. take it for what it's worth.
I, for one, appreciate the links to the articles. This section of the forum, IMH noob opinion, should be a "safe place" to discuss these types of concerns. I'm a happy vaper, and nicotine is for me a very beneficial drug (it's very good for ADHD and depression with no noticeable side-effects), but I also have concerns about the long-term consequences of heavy vaping and nicotine use. There's no doubt that vaping is much safer than smoking, but there are a lot of really unhealthy habits that can be characterized that way.
Vaping does, at times, seem a little too good to be true. It's a risk I'm obviously willing to take, because I haven't seen any evidence that I'm doing myself any real harm, but I do have some reservations. Based on these articles, vaping after a cancer diagnosis is probably a bad idea. Since some people may quit smoking and start vaping because of a cancer diagnoses, I think it's good information to have.
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