E-cigarette Study

[STILLSMOK9]

I believe there was a study that said e-cigarettes are safe.

Anyone know where I can find information in regards to this?

Thanks in advance

[STILLSMOK9]

Maybe I was wrong!

I thoght that there was another study done besides/after the New Zealand study?

[e-pipeman]

Originally Posted by STILLSMOK9

I believe there was a study that said e-cigarettes are safe.

Anyone know where I can find information in regards to this?

Thanks in advance

Hi Still,

As far as I know no such definitive study has been conducted to date. It is unwise to assume that nicotine is in any sense "safe". However it may be possible to argue that you are avoiding an awful lot of very toxic chemicals found in tobacco smoke if you choose to vape instead. This in no way means that e-cigarettes are safe, imho.

[STILLSMOK9]

Originally Posted by e-pipeman

Hi Still,

As far as I know no such definitive study has been conducted to date. It is unwise to assume that nicotine is in any sense "safe". However it may be possible to argue that you are avoiding an awful lot of very toxic chemicals found in tobacco smoke if you choose to vape instead. This in no way means that e-cigarettes are safe, imho.

FDA wants to ban them over here.

I just pray that we can continue for the afore point you just stated..

[openthewell]

I think the FDA will have a hard time banning them here with this new bill. My thinking is, if they can condone the sale of an unsafe product under there jurisdiction (tobacco products), how can they ban anything else simply because it is unsafe? What do I know though, I'm a youngin' on these boards and in life (23) and many people have said I have too much optimism in the system to work as its designed; perhaps that is true.

[Surf Monkey]

Originally Posted by openthewell

if they can condone the sale of an unsafe product under there jurisdiction (tobacco products), how can they ban anything else simply because it is unsafe?

Yep. That's the core problem with the bill. It directs the FDA to approve a product that they know kills people. It's contradictory to their core mission. It's going to be difficult for them to resolve that problem.

[zips]

They condone the sale of it because it's the most addictive substance in the world, and they know levying a tax on it won't stop addicts from paying it:

Soon after President Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act into law, the newly empowered Democratic Congress has once again signaled their commitment to what they’re calling “women and children first.”
The Senate voted 66-to-32 to expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program to cover four million currently uninsured children by 2013. A tobacco tax will be used to pay for the increase in the federal program.

That's why I took up smoking -- for the children.

[STILLSMOK9]

Yup, looks 2b an interesting ride!!!

[daniel2828]

Originally Posted by openthewell

I think the FDA will have a hard time banning them here with this new bill. My thinking is, if they can condone the sale of an unsafe product under there jurisdiction (tobacco products), how can they ban anything else simply because it is unsafe?

For the same reason that here in Iowa, smoking is banned in all businesses in the interest of the health of employees. Well...except for the casinos. Iowa politicians don't give a damn about the health of THOSE employees, because they get revenue from the casinos. Money will always be the bottom line in this matter, and all reasonable logic such as you state above be damned.

[genmunden]

My guess is that FDA sees these as medical devices, delivering an uncontrolled substance that has not been fully tested with full blown US clinical trials. I think they will clamp down on shipments from China sooner than later. IT is only a matter of time and as the demand increases, so does FDA's attempt at controlling it.

Once the clinical trials are done, most likely by a major US pharmaceutical company, then they will stamp an approval on it along with a whopping cost that will be obtainable by perscription only so that it never gets into the market as an OTC (over the counter) which could end up in the hands of minors. Kids are attracted to things that deliver cherry, strawberry, etc flavors as well as nicotine.

In my opinion I think you are either pre-disposed to smoke or not. I acted out smoking when I was 6 and started at 14 and now trying to quit at 51. If an ecig had been available would I have tried it? Probably but the peer pressure was to smoke regular cigs. Today, however, if a kid is going to smoke then give them the alternative choice to get started on a safe route. The kids who have seen my ecig are more facinated with it than any adult smoking friends or mine. At least it won't leave them with potential lung cancer or other deadly health problems after 20, 30 years of vaping. I don't think that will happen. Unfortunately the would be young smokers will probably have to stick with the deadly alternative and then when they can't quit, get a $300 perscription for an eCig. I just don't see the US allowing the sale of these but am keeping my fingers crossed and will continue to vape as long as I can!!! It is surely saving my life.