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    Hey all! I just read this news story, and I gotta wonder, if things get out of hand with the Swine flu, maybe theres a stronger case for vaping, as PG reportedly kills germs and analogs weaken the lungs. May make a good quick read IMHO. Just thought id share New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study | Health | Reuters

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    The PG vapor is particularly adept at killing bacteria that cause pneumonia, and, if you read Gina Kolata's excellent book "Flu", on the 1918 pandemic, you'll learn that many fatalities back then resulted from influenza becoming bacterial pneumonia.

    PG vapor might - might - prevent that critical change from viral flu to bacterial pneumonia. It also might kill the H1N1 virus outright.

    Don't you wish SOMEONE would do some lab tests in Petri dishes!

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    hmmm maybe vaping will cure my frequent bouts of tonsilitus! lol. Either case, I guess might is a very good word to use. Who knows if it has the same effects in the body as it does in the air. And also why is it that the PG kills bacteria. that fact alone has gotten me curious. Ya know theres good and bad bacteria out there as well.

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    In a common sense world, theyd be testing these things right now. Not just to make sure they arent going to very bad for us, but with the idea that if theres a pandemic this fall (scares me if I think about it with the viruses history, I try not to), something like these could maybe come in handy if it truly kills germ viruses. Tropical Bob, I DO wish there were current testing going on. Id be real nice if there wasnt a ban in the meantime, but im dreaming there. This virus could kill millions, or it could peter out of existence, either way, Im going to vape vape VAPE!

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    Paladinx: Thoroughly read the first page or two of the "germ-killing vapor" thread in Health and note that more recent testing has only confirmed and expanded the germ-killing capabilities of PG vapor (not mist, not liquid, not aerosol, but vapor!). We have in our hands what researchers in the early 1940s could not even conceive: A personal PG vaporizer.

    Vapinginmyboots: As soon as I heard of swine flu, I emailed Dr. Murray Laugesen of Health New Zealand with the notion that a lab should test PG vapor against the swine flu virus. He agreed, but I know of no action that has been subsequently taken. At the time of our exchanges, New Zealand didn't have a swine flu case or problem. IT DOES NOW.

    And Reuters is already reporting this week that the virus is becoming almost identical to the 1918 pandemic flu virus. We could face a real global problem this fall.

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    TB - If it becomes a huge global problem and no vapors get it do ya think that the powers that be might look at PG/Vaping in a different light? Even just a little? I would think that it would be something they'd at least want to experiment with... or they'd just call it coincidence & ignore it regardless of that 1940's study.

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    Between yesterday and most of today so far, I have had all the symptoms of the flu. I looked up swine flu symptoms just for poops and giggles and all my symptoms are IDENTICAL to the ones on About.com. Everything except vomiting. Im not saying I have the swine strain, but what a co-inkydink I posted the news story not that long ago. I never got flu in the summer B4, even as a smoker. I meet a lot of different people in 2 states every weekday at work so I probably picked it up from one of them. Ive been vaping as usual and not sharing the e-cig or carts, and doing the same thing I do normally every day. Im miserable and this sucks and thought I just had to share this. not smoking for this long so far should help me recover faster, but PG is not going to make us totally protected in an epidemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    Paladinx: Thoroughly read the first page or two of the "germ-killing vapor" thread in Health and note that more recent testing has only confirmed and expanded the germ-killing capabilities of PG vapor (not mist, not liquid, not aerosol, but vapor!). We have in our hands what researchers in the early 1940s could not even conceive: A personal PG vaporizer.

    Vapinginmyboots: As soon as I heard of swine flu, I emailed Dr. Murray Laugesen of Health New Zealand with the notion that a lab should test PG vapor against the swine flu virus. He agreed, but I know of no action that has been subsequently taken. At the time of our exchanges, New Zealand didn't have a swine flu case or problem. IT DOES NOW.

    And Reuters is already reporting this week that the virus is becoming almost identical to the 1918 pandemic flu virus. We could face a real global problem this fall.
    Good work Tropical Bob! Please keep me/us posted on this. Turns out I may have the flu, maybe even swine as said in my previous post, but that doesnt mean that vaping doesnt give ANY protection from it. Id love to see the results of Dr. Murray Laugesen. Im not scared of swine in its current form, even if I have it. Im scared of a mutated form that could kill millions of people. Hopefully I have it so I can be more immune to it I hate to say.

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    So sorry you are sick!!! We are all afraid of this stupid flu.

    One worry I can't seem to dismiss.....good bacteria helps keep the "fungus amoung us" in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wezzie View Post
    So sorry you are sick!!! We are all afraid of this stupid flu.

    One worry I can't seem to dismiss.....good bacteria helps keep the "fungus amoung us" in check.
    Thank you were I a smoker still i know from experience it would feel a lot worse, it sucks but its not terrible. I somewhat worry about the balance of good bacteria and bad bacteria with vaping, not bad enough to go back to analogs but inhaling anything is a big risk. Just like penicillin resistance and such, killing germs can sometimes have the opposite effect over time, making the bad ones stronger. The good and the bad. The Ying and the Yang . Balance is important in nature.

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