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Elphaba Thropp · 07-20-2009, 05:56 PM

I’ve never had any allergies before.

I’ve been smoking for more than 35 years, about a pack a day. Don’t tell anyone, but I haven’t seen any real side effects, except for those rare occasions when go into a heavy binge -- stay up all night, not enough liquids… Then I pay for it with a serious cough and stuff, but that goes away within a day or so.

I started using a “SmokeStik” about a month ago. (see thread at e-cigarette-forum.com (slash) forum/new-members-forum/26105-what-am-i-doing-wrong (dot) html)
It hasn’t been going well, and I’m still using almost a half-pack of real smokes a day. I’ve been keeping them far away, so I need to run up and down two flights of stairs to get one.

I started getting a little itchy a couple of days ago. I shrugged it off – maybe it was the heat or something. Then last night (Sunday) it got crazy itchy, with welts all over my arms, legs, torso…

I’ve never used Benadryl before, but we had some children’s liquid left over from something or other. I took that at around 2:30 AM. That kicked in eventually and I was asleep within a half-hour. Now (Monday, noon) there’s nothing left but the self-inflicted scratches (I drew blood in a couple of spots).

I can’t think of anything else to blame it on.

How likely is it that I would develop an allergy to nicotine this late in life?

Tori · 07-20-2009, 06:06 PM

If you started using your ecig a month ago I would think the allergy symptoms would have started then and not been a delayed reaction.... could be something else.. you might wanna do more research on anything that may have changed in your life... soaps, laundry stuff, anything... good luck

MissVapor · 07-21-2009, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphaba Thropp

I’ve never had any allergies before.

I’ve been smoking for more than 35 years, about a pack a day. Don’t tell anyone, but I haven’t seen any real side effects, except for those rare occasions when go into a heavy binge -- stay up all night, not enough liquids… Then I pay for it with a serious cough and stuff, but that goes away within a day or so.

I started using a “SmokeStik” about a month ago. (see thread at e-cigarette-forum.com (slash) forum/new-members-forum/26105-what-am-i-doing-wrong (dot) html)
It hasn’t been going well, and I’m still using almost a half-pack of real smokes a day. I’ve been keeping them far away, so I need to run up and down two flights of stairs to get one.

I started getting a little itchy a couple of days ago. I shrugged it off – maybe it was the heat or something. Then last night (Sunday) it got crazy itchy, with welts all over my arms, legs, torso…

I’ve never used Benadryl before, but we had some children’s liquid left over from something or other. I took that at around 2:30 AM. That kicked in eventually and I was asleep within a half-hour. Now (Monday, noon) there’s nothing left but the self-inflicted scratches (I drew blood in a couple of spots).

I can’t think of anything else to blame it on.

How likely is it that I would develop an allergy to nicotine this late in life?

Your probably having an allergic reaction of PG build up in your system..not nicotine.. this has happened to many others on this site ..I got very itchy skin/red eyes.

try switching to VG juice or PEG juice..

Elphaba Thropp · 07-21-2009, 03:31 AM

Thanks, all.

PG, VG, PEG... I had to look it up.
In the sticky thread about abbreviations, the OP says they're different.
Then a poster says they're the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yvilla

Glycerine = glycerin = vegetable glycerin(e) = glycerol. They are all the same thing.

But the OP didn't update.

Now you say they're different.

If there's a difference, how do you know what you're getting?

Kate51 · 07-21-2009, 03:37 AM

I understand Propylene Glycol can build up lactic acid, which can cause problems but never heard of anyone with those symptoms, before. Any intolerance to PG usually starts with the most-exposed tissues, mouth, nose, throat, with coughing or sore throat.
Maybe a quick trip to an allergist would be in order. May be a reaction to weeds, insects, or some kind of bug spray, etc., changes in laundry soaps, etc., as Tori stated.
Lactic acid build-up would be more on the order of internal problems, heart burn, digestive problems, achey muscles, heart palpitations, etc., but this is something else IMHO.

PG and PEG about the same, the glycols, generally a person who develops sensitivity to these get sore throats, dry burning throat, coughs, etc.
VG= vegetable glycerin, much more easily tolerated, not so drying to tissues. I have to use VG, PG makes me feel like I'm strangling, very sore throat and hoarse, dry cough.
When people say "same thing", they're not, but they do vaporize pretty much the same vapor volume. I would pretty much be assured it is not an allergy to nicotine, with your history.

framitz · 07-21-2009, 03:43 AM

I wonder if maybe you got exposed to something else without realizing it. If nothing has changed then I would suspect the PG.
I don't see it being nicotine.

Elphaba Thropp · 07-21-2009, 03:54 AM

And the list of qualifiers grows.

Ok, so what kind/brand of juice has vegetable glycerin
with more throat hit than the "marlboro" flavor and
low nicotine? And where would I get it?

Tori · 07-21-2009, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphaba Thropp

And the list of qualifiers grows.

Ok, so what kind/brand of juice has vegetable glycerin
with more throat hit than the "marlboro" flavor and
low nicotine? And where would I get it?

Try innovapors 'rich' liquid... pretty good hit

MissVapor · 07-21-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphaba Thropp

And the list of qualifiers grows.

Ok, so what kind/brand of juice has vegetable glycerin
with more throat hit than the "marlboro" flavor and
low nicotine? And where would I get it?

I specifically remember another member here complaining of hives from pg..I think it was Spikey?

Anyways, try juicyliquid or eliquidplanet for VG or Nuvape for PEG

Spikey · 07-22-2009, 07:17 PM

PG allergy symptoms list (from 3 or 4 users who had PG allergies). For me it took 3 weeks before symptoms got really bad.
Symptoms of PG Allergies and Sensitivity - Vapers Forum

This thread is on typical side effects of PG
PG Side affect? - Vapers Forum

Here is info side effects of VG...
VG Side Effects - Vapers Forum

Places to get VG...
(choose VG option instead of PG when making purchase unless there is a seperate page for VG)
EliquidPlanet
www.JuicyLiquid.com
InnoVapor :: The Finest in Personal Vaporizers (ecopure in VG)
Ecopure is also available from intellicig and in bulk from central trade.

If you have any more questions... drop me a line!

07-20-2009, 05:56 PM	#1
Elphaba Thropp Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA, East Coast Posts: 35	Allergy? I’ve never had any allergies before. I’ve been smoking for more than 35 years, about a pack a day. Don’t tell anyone, but I haven’t seen any real side effects, except for those rare occasions when go into a heavy binge -- stay up all night, not enough liquids… Then I pay for it with a serious cough and stuff, but that goes away within a day or so. I started using a “SmokeStik” about a month ago. (see thread at e-cigarette-forum.com (slash) forum/new-members-forum/26105-what-am-i-doing-wrong (dot) html) It hasn’t been going well, and I’m still using almost a half-pack of real smokes a day. I’ve been keeping them far away, so I need to run up and down two flights of stairs to get one. I started getting a little itchy a couple of days ago. I shrugged it off – maybe it was the heat or something. Then last night (Sunday) it got crazy itchy, with welts all over my arms, legs, torso… I’ve never used Benadryl before, but we had some children’s liquid left over from something or other. I took that at around 2:30 AM. That kicked in eventually and I was asleep within a half-hour. Now (Monday, noon) there’s nothing left but the self-inflicted scratches (I drew blood in a couple of spots). I can’t think of anything else to blame it on. How likely is it that I would develop an allergy to nicotine this late in life?

07-20-2009, 06:06 PM	#2
Tori Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: South Texas USA Posts: 305	If you started using your ecig a month ago I would think the allergy symptoms would have started then and not been a delayed reaction.... could be something else.. you might wanna do more research on anything that may have changed in your life... soaps, laundry stuff, anything... good luck __________________ Serial Vaping & Lovin' It Since July 2, 2009

07-21-2009, 03:37 AM	#5
Kate51 Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Argyle Wi USA Posts: 1,935	I understand Propylene Glycol can build up lactic acid, which can cause problems but never heard of anyone with those symptoms, before. Any intolerance to PG usually starts with the most-exposed tissues, mouth, nose, throat, with coughing or sore throat. Maybe a quick trip to an allergist would be in order. May be a reaction to weeds, insects, or some kind of bug spray, etc., changes in laundry soaps, etc., as Tori stated. Lactic acid build-up would be more on the order of internal problems, heart burn, digestive problems, achey muscles, heart palpitations, etc., but this is something else IMHO. PG and PEG about the same, the glycols, generally a person who develops sensitivity to these get sore throats, dry burning throat, coughs, etc. VG= vegetable glycerin, much more easily tolerated, not so drying to tissues. I have to use VG, PG makes me feel like I'm strangling, very sore throat and hoarse, dry cough. When people say "same thing", they're not, but they do vaporize pretty much the same vapor volume. I would pretty much be assured it is not an allergy to nicotine, with your history. __________________ Smokers have more choices than just quitting or dying Last edited by Kate51; 07-21-2009 at 03:44 AM.

07-21-2009, 03:43 AM	#6
framitz Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: RSM, CA Posts: 655 Tweet this post!	I wonder if maybe you got exposed to something else without realizing it. If nothing has changed then I would suspect the PG. I don't see it being nicotine. __________________

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07-21-2009, 03:54 AM	#7
Elphaba Thropp Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA, East Coast Posts: 35	And the list of qualifiers grows. Ok, so what kind/brand of juice has vegetable glycerin with more throat hit than the "marlboro" flavor and low nicotine? And where would I get it?

07-22-2009, 07:17 PM	#10
Spikey Moved On Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island, New York, USA Posts: 1,336	PG allergy symptoms list (from 3 or 4 users who had PG allergies). For me it took 3 weeks before symptoms got really bad. Symptoms of PG Allergies and Sensitivity - Vapers Forum This thread is on typical side effects of PG PG Side affect? - Vapers Forum Here is info side effects of VG... VG Side Effects - Vapers Forum Places to get VG... (choose VG option instead of PG when making purchase unless there is a seperate page for VG) EliquidPlanet www.JuicyLiquid.com InnoVapor :: The Finest in Personal Vaporizers (ecopure in VG) Ecopure is also available from intellicig and in bulk from central trade. If you have any more questions... drop me a line!