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FDA no go on E-CIGs in Health and Medical Issues; Originally Posted by Kelly79 Frankly I'd rather have my kids hooked on caffeine and nicotine than junk food, but I ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelly79 View Post
    Frankly I'd rather have my kids hooked on caffeine and nicotine than junk food, but I am def fine with them teaching no alcohol. (yes I drink, but unless I'm really careful I drink way too much, which leads to way too often, that's an easy spiral for most people to be dragged into)
    'Zero Tolerance' for any legal substance is a silly lesson to teach IMHO. Moderation of everything in life is a much more beneficial lesson
    ..... but I am also of the opinion that 'life' lessons are not something that should be taught in school.

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    This country is one of extremes in every which way. And this is no different. First the country lets the tobacco industries run a muck and do whatever they want to do with 0 regulation. Now it will be anti tobacco completely, bob is right. What should have been done, is keep this country a free country let there be cigarettes and tobacco products, but they should have regulated the tobacco companies a long time ago. They could have at least limited some of the potential harms in the products, and gave people the proper knowledge way back. and also, i am sure that if it were regulated "justly", cigarettes would not be so damn addictive as they are now. There much more to these things than just tobacco and paper. They are engineered to hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    I see the anti-smoking movement morphing into the anti-tobacco movement which will soon become anti-nicotine, with the slogan: Not one more generation hooked on nicotine. It's coming. Watch for it.
    You are a wise man. That's where this is headed. Hanging on the "green" movement is a "health" crowd. They've got their claws into all sorts of personal choices. As matter of fact, my work (private company) no longer subsidizes caffeinated beverages in vending machines (only juices now) since they're not the healthy choice. It was a change implemented along with removing all paper cups in favor of reusable ceramic mugs (don't get me started about the trade-offs there).

    Granted, I'm in California where we grow cutting edge dictators of the right personal choices, but certainly sunny CA is a bellwether of where things are probably going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestran View Post
    Why are flavored cigars and wraps not banned?
    I can go to the quickie mart right now and get grape cigars.
    Nestran,

    According to most of my resellers, they have to get the flavored cigars and cigarillos off the shelf in September. Not sure of the exact date, but they all say they aren't ordering any more from their suppliers

    ...of course, in the next breath they ask if I am going to carry "chocolate" and "coffee" e-juice... to be honest, I sell a TON more base liquid than flavored liquid or carts anyway.
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    This is my first post on this forum, and i agree with all of you im thankful im not the only one upset about the FDA thing. I wrote to my senator about that very issue just yesterday when I get a response back I will post it here. I didn't even think about the alcohol argument but its a really good one.

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