It's KILLING Me!!! Diabetic / Blood Sugar , I need sweetner free liquid?

[basic_atheist]

That was my question, is sugar absorbed through the lungs?

Only if you're an alien. What planet would that be from?

[basic_atheist]

PG breaks down into lactic acid, lactic acid reduces the effectiveness of Metformin. So if you're taking Metformin you NEED to pay really close attention to your sugar levels when vaping PG.

Every one has different reactions and different tolerances to chemicals. If that wasn't true we'd have a universal medication and dosage to control sugar levels.

To anyone else who may be interested in this stuff, just Google PG and lactic acid, metabolic pathway of lactic acid and Gluconeogenesis.

I see what you're saying. You're talking about chemical reactions associated with it's use. Roger that... I thought you meant some kind of alien metabolism began in the lungs... LOL... silly me.

I take metformin (1,000 mg / day) and glimepiride (4 mg / day). I check my blood sugar 4 to 5 times every day. So far, so good.

No concerns for lactic acidosis here either. Plus the PG/VG water vapor is oxygen rich, so that's good.

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Just some precautionary measures for anybody, especially for diabetics. Be careful with the juice, try not to get in on your skin, lips, or tongue. Use tools to help refill cartridges, like tweezers, pins, and paperclips. It's not a good idea to just drop the juice straight into the cartridge, because it can cause them to leak straight into your mouth when you take a draw. Always raise the inner cartridge so you can see what you're doing. Drip vaping might be a little easier for some people, but it takes a steady hand to drip the juice on the petruding steeples. Some atomizers have a sunken steeple in a barrel, those are easier to drip on.

Also, don't smoke and vape at the same time, nor in the same day. That just defeats the whole purpose... Unless you have a death wish. I'm sure you've heard of nicotine poisoning.

If for any reason you feel that vaping is causing you some undesired side effects, then I would encourage you to stop using nicotine all together and see how well your conditions improve. There are so many variables at play it's hard to tell what is what. Run your own experiments and make logs of your blood pressure and glucose levels. Do a before and after test... anything... do something to help yourself. If you can't vape, then your only choice is to stop using nicotine.

... And please don't go back to smoking analogs. I'd rather see a b*tchy attitude from not having any nicotine, than to see someone overkillling themselves with analogs. You're smoking PG in analogs, along with DEG too. PG is used to keep the tobacco from getting too dry. DEG is used in the glue adhesive to bond the filters and paper together. Add to that fire retardants and accelerants, carbon monoxide, and 4,000+ other chemical additives. Suddenly you wonder why the FDA is so concerned about e-cigs. It's certainly not about your health, that's for sure.

[Batta0909]

<---type 1 dibetic for 8 years

I also vape like a frate train, and have no difference in blood sugar. I also smoke a hookah every once in a while and have never seen a change from that either. Im not saying this post is a lie, but i would recommend making sure this is actually the cause. Ive never seen any proof from my own body, or any other reliable source that says smoking or vaping sugary liquids have the same effect on blood sugar as eating, if any at all.

If anything these posts should make you question this, and see for yourself on your own body. Everyones bodys different, find out what yours does.

[Socalvapster]

I'm type II diabetic and I've been noticing my bs been up since vaping. I just restarted to test my bs several times a day now after getting a bad review from my doc on my last visit. My A1C was at 8.8 and I had a little protein in my kidneys. He prescribed a blood pressure med to protect my kidneys. I have insomnia so I go to sleep between 4-5 am. No snacking just vaping last night and early morning. Before I went to sleep my bs was 165 at 5:32am so I took a 5 mg of Glyburide and 500mg of Metformin. When I got up today I tested at 11:39 am with a bs count of 146. I took one 5mg Glyburide and 500mg of Metformin which usually brings my bs down and low if I haven't had anything to eat which I haven't yet eaten today just been vaping. I tested again at 3:02pm and it was 131.
I don't want to have to be insulin dependent but I also don't want to start smoking analogs again.

[dk2]

I'm type II diabetic and I've been noticing my bs been up since vaping. I just restarted to test my bs several times a day now after getting a bad review from my doc on my last visit. My A1C was at 8.8 and I had a little protein in my kidneys. He prescribed a blood pressure med to protect my kidneys. I have insomnia so I go to sleep between 4-5 am. No snacking just vaping last night and early morning. Before I went to sleep my bs was 165 at 5:32am so I took a 5 mg of Glyburide and 500mg of Metformin. When I got up today I tested at 11:39 am with a bs count of 146. I took one 5mg Glyburide and 500mg of Metformin which usually brings my bs down and low if I haven't had anything to eat which I haven't yet eaten today just been vaping. I tested again at 3:02pm and it was 131.
I don't want to have to be insulin dependent but I also don't want to start smoking analogs again.

oops I should read before i post

[Serpentine]

Well, here's a way to find out of vaping affects your sugar...test it! I'm a diabetic, on insulin, and I was very concerned that I would not be able to vape because I was afraid it would raise my sugar. And just to let you know how obsessive I am about my numbers, I maintain very tight control on a very low carb diet (under 30 carbs a day) and I keep an A1C of 5.3 to 5.5.

I tested before I started vaping, vaped for about fifteen or twenty minutes, took my sugar again at the hour mark. I saw no rise in my number at all. I am extremely sensitive to sugar of all types, even a small amount will send my blood glucose through the roof in a very short time. I test about five-six times a day and I've been doing this for two weeks and have not noticed any effect on my numbers at all. I'm not saying it would never cause a rise in someone, but this is very individual and the only way you can know for sure is to test. So test! You should be doing that anyway, but you know that...

There are many things that can cause a Type 2 to deteriorate, and unfortunately, sometimes it's just the nature of the disease. Other things can raise your sugar, too, like infections, colds, allergies, dental cavities, for women hormone cyles, etc. One thing I would say to all Type 2s is do not fear insulin! It doesn't mean you've done anything wrong, it doesn't mean you have failed. In fact, I believe it gives you more control over your numbers when you learn to use it. I honestly don't know why anyone bothers with orals at all. Don't fear the needles, they are far less painful than finger sticks, anyway. I love, love, love insulin! If I see a number I don't like, I can fix it within minutes.

[Socalvapster]

Had a small peanut butter (Smart Balance 2mg sugar) and jelly (sugar free Smuckers apricot) sandwich on wheat bread small slices. Tested again @ 4:38 168. Took another Glyburide and Met. I thought it could be the cafe machiato 20% vg 21 ml mixed with 9ml of 100mg nic 100% vg to fill a 30ml bottle. I am going to vape Marlboro 26mg from Vapor room. My next appointment is in 3 mos. I'll probably have to contact my doctor now. Maybe I'll have to go to insulin for better control.

[Serpentine]

SoCal, if you do have to go on insulin, it's ok. Once you get the hang of it, you will think it's the best thing you ever did for your glucose control.

Right now, you might want to lower your carb intake a bit to help keep your numbers a bit lower?

OK, I'm done. I'm not the Diabetes Police! Just trying to help. I know it's frustrating and maddening as hell. I don't mean to tell you what to do or preach at you, for sure. I know I hate when others do that to me.

[Mary Kay]

I have posted many times before about this. I am now on insulin but before I went on insulin I was vaping. It did not raise my BD at all. It doesn't raise it now. P.G. is used in diabetic foods to sweeten them.
But if you are not eatting on a regular basis..that will raise your BD. The minute your feet hit the ground in the morning your BG starts to rise..no matter what you do. But eatting at regular times will help keep it from spiking. Taking your meds will also help regulate it.
Diabetes is a progressive disease. Umless caught very early and managed well you will move on to insulin. (It really isn't bad..the needle is tiny and doesn't hurt. I am afraid of needles and even I can do it!)
Talk to your Dr. test a lot and eat and exercize! Analogs were much worse for you and also raised BS as well as BP!
Oh BTW, tobacco leaves are softened by soaking them in P.G.!