It's KILLING Me!!! Diabetic / Blood Sugar , I need sweetner free liquid?

[NoGood]

The one thing all diabetic's will hear from their doctor is that their sugar is getting worse!
Yep it seems all the liquids for our e-cigs contain sugar.
I asked around and this seems to be the case with all liquids, for some reason the makers haven't taken us into account.

I'm not sure about you but I would rather take my chances with cigarettes then to cut my life short with diabeties.
I take the pills right now but the doctor is talking about putting me on insulin because my sugar is getting to high.
What was 150 and lower is now in the 200's and 300's so I will put away all my stuff ( what a huge waste $$$ ) I have a lot of it, kits and juice, pipes and e-cigs and I have dug my cigs out of the closet and am once again smoking.
Cancer may never happen but diabeties can kill you for sure.

It's killing me.
I've spent over $2,000 maybe over $3,000 so far stocking up so I would have supplies when or if they ban these things.
Well I did outfit 5 of my relatives and their partners with e-cigs and liquids and they love them as well.
I love these things so I have 4 pipes, two lady pipes, 8 DSE801's , 10 DSE901's and various parts and liquids and 3 401's and an E8 and EM9 kit.
There's just to much to list and I can't use it because of sweetner's.

Any Help would be great.
Yeah I know this will probably not help posting here but I have to try.
HELP???

[usamare]

PG and VG are technically alcohol, but a good laymen term for both would be sugar-water.

As much as I would like to be wrong on this, I don't think anything else will work very well.
You might try cutting the crap out of your e-juice with water, but there will probably always be sugar in it.

My plan for dealing with the loss of e-cigs is to switch to herbal vaporizers. So far the best combo (convenience + effectiveness) has been pipe tobacco in an Iolite portable vaporizer. It's definately NOT as good as an e-cig (taste OR convenience), but it gets the job done without smoke. On the plus side, you get a LOT more mileage from vaporizing tobacco than smoking it, so the cost of vaporizers is a very justifiable investment.

[42109]

So what does the Iolite vaporizer do that's any different?

[usamare]

Herbal vaporizers heat herbs (such as tobacco) enough to essentially 'boil' the moisture out of them without burning anything.
Most herbal vaporizers are rather large 'plug into the wall' affairs. Some of them are portable, but the batteries don't last very long. The Iolite runs on butane instead of batteries. It does NOT have adjustable temperature, which sucks, but it runs at a near-perfect temperature for a moist tobacco.

I don't have any other herbal vaporizers, so I cannot comment on which is the best.

Frogbmth made a usage guide http://freepdfhost.com/projects_new/...2/iolitev2.pdf
I can't say I agree with his opinion on some things (I hate e-juice out of the Iolite), but it's pretty good info and if you can't use an e-cig for whatever reason, it's something to take a serious look at.

[NoGood]

So I should get me a small hooka.
He he
I have been looking at them on legal buds.

[usamare]

I would say, if used correctly, the hookah vaporizes rather than burns, so yes, however; the amazing tasting shisha tobaccos have ingredients that look like e-juice. -honey, VG, tobacco, artificial flavors...sort of like that.

That being said, hookahs are inexpensive, and you could probably feed it whatever you want. Another budget conscious vape would be Vapor Genie. It's basically a pipe with an attachment on the top that keeps the flame of your lighter from contacting the herbs in the pipe. So the user holds the lighter to the end for a while and the thing starts vaporizing stuff.

[42109]

So, wouldn't the vapor be the same as with an ecig? The hookah tobacco I saw was soaked in VG. I don't understand how this might help.

[usamare]

I was trying to convey that the device itself might work, but that the typical tobacco that it uses is not appropriate for the OP.

The important point is that even without e-cigs, there are some solid vaping options that should be explored before going back to smoking.

Come to think of it, since the FDA recently set up a complaint hotline for e-cigs, I anticipate we will all be needing some alternatives very soon.

Be Safe!

[Ryle]

I find the origional post on this thread very interesting and I must admit to being quite skeptical about the legitimacy.

Why?

Because I'm hypoglycemic (sp?)... the opposite of diabetic for those who don't know. I vape like a freight train and I still get low blood sugar at the same intervals that I always did before. (I have a bad habit of forgetting to eat) if anything I've been having MORE cases of low blood sugar than I did on analogs since with vaping I eat even less than I did before.

I'm not trying to call the OP a lier, but if vaping has made their blood sugar sky rocket like they say then wouldn't logic stand to suggest that it would, at the very least, bring mine closer to level??

[TheLizinator]

I do not pretend to understand anything about this at all, just asking a simple question: why would inhalation of vapor have anything at all to do with metabolizing glucose? Do we get calories/carbs from vaping? Don't you have to ingest calories/carbs to have an impact on your blood glucose levels? Are we all going to chub up because we're vaping glycerin? Yikes!