Need a sanity check - mouth problems

[Kate51]

DISSAPPOINTED, I am, too, for you...but can't believe such trouble would have reared it's ugly head in such a short time...tooth and gum problems usually take a long time to develop, perhaps the ph of your mouth changed drastically, because of vaping??
Hard to imagine....Please tell us, what nic density were you using, what juices, etc....I really want to know. The thing we're all trying to avoid is doing harm, so the info really will help.

[Briar]

It could be all sorts of things.

PV is apparently irritating to some people - possibly from the drying out effect, possibly for other reasons.

But, some folks have also reported similar effects from VG (I am still not 100% sure in my own case - need to experiment more).

It could be the flavorings - are there common elements to all of them?

It's hard to imagine that it's nic. I haven't vaped at all today, but I puffed away like a locomotive on the analogs. And my mouth is fine. But. Are we sure that the *way* nic is delivered (vape as opposed to smoke) may not have an effect on how nic reacts with our skin? I have read at least one person reporting that touching juice irritated his facial skin *a lot*. Our mouths are very sensitive, so I'm thinking it might still be nic, even for a heavy smoker?

It's just impossible to say, short of experimenting extensively. I know one thing: if something is irritating my body consistently to the point of pain, I am not going to use it, no matter how much I might wish for it not to be so. <sigh>

Briar.

[drdave]

Briar,
For some reason, whenever I change my nicotine consumption form, I will either get mouth and throat irritation or the hiccups. This only seems to last for a few days. One of the things that I have found to be extremely helpful is to drink or sip on a hot beverage. My personal favorite is coffee but hot tea works as well. This type of irritation is common with the nicotine gum for me as well. This seems to pass after a few days. If you experience red gums and gingiva try a warm saltwater gargle also. I hope this helps.

[MissVapor]

I had symptoms from both VG and PG..try PEG from nuvape..thats what ive been using for months now..

[Subliminal]

I've developed cankers and small sore lumps on my tongue (form of canker I think) and gums were more sensitive. Also, with PG, I get slight sore throat. But with VG all I notice is my lungs feel more congested and I clear my throat more. I was using both VG and PG when the cankers developed so I'm not 100% sure. But I will say for the first week or two of vaping I used VG exclusively and don't recall those issues. I believe it to be PG for me, but as I'm out of VG and LOTS of PG left, I'll find out for sure. I just got over a nasty bout of cankers. So only time and experimentation will tell.

[DISSAPPOINTED]

THANK YOU I AM GOING TO NEED ALL THE LUCK, WILL POWER ETC FOR GOING COLD TURKEY.................................START OF DAY 2 WITH NO CIGARRETTE OR E CIG.
I WAS A SMOKER (18 YEARS) BEFORE I STARTED THE E-CIG, NOT ONCE DID I EXPERIENCE SORE GUMES, SENSITIVE TEETH ON NORMAL CIGS.
YES IT MOST DEFINETLY IS THE NICOTINE LIQUID - (E-LIQUIP, TWISP LIQUID, DEEP FOREST LIQUID) CAUSING THIS PROBLEM.

[DISSAPPOINTED]

Hi kate 51,
the strength of the nicotine liquid - high nicotine 18mg, the flavours i was using
malboro - high
menthol - high

[Briar]

Briar,
For some reason, whenever I change my nicotine consumption form, I will either get mouth and throat irritation or the hiccups. This only seems to last for a few days. One of the things that I have found to be extremely helpful is to drink or sip on a hot beverage. My personal favorite is coffee but hot tea works as well. This type of irritation is common with the nicotine gum for me as well. This seems to pass after a few days. If you experience red gums and gingiva try a warm saltwater gargle also. I hope this helps.

You hit this particular nail right on the head.

It was *nicotine*, folks! I took a day off, did the salt water thing like a good girl, all the while sweating that it was PG and/or VG... Well, the next day I had to test it, so I went back to vaping. A little irritation at first, and then it pretty much went away... It was PG stuff that I was using (10 mg), so I am *not*, as it turns out, PG-sensitive. Yesterday I got in some stronger stuff (VG), and I could taste the peppery taste of nicotine - and just when it hit my mouth, it started tingling and then burning a little. But, eventually it just went away as the day wore on. Now I almost don't fell anything at all. My lips tingle a bit, that's the extent of it.

Yaaaaaaay!

I must say I was surprised. I've smoked for 30 years and nic has never affected me this way before. I guess much of the vape-nicotine gets absorbed in the mouth, so there is more of an effect?

I just wish it wasn't giving me such a *horrible* heartburn... Yuck. I'm popping Tums like crazy. Hope it's a temporary thing.

Anyways, things are looking up, at least on this front. I just hope they don't ban the stuff... So many flavors yet to try...

Cheers,
Briar.

[DaBrat]

A lot of the mouth irritaion symptoms reported here are also listed as sysmptoms for the Nicotrol Inhaler

http://media.pfizer.com/files/produc...ol_inhaler.pdf

Look at local irritation. This could actually be a side effect of the nicotine itself and NOT something inherent to the ecigarette. I would reccommend cutting dosage and fequency. Thats the thing about an ecig, it doesn't burn down so you don't know when it done! I am sure the Vg acts as a coating of some sort to lessen the symptoms of irritation.

[Briar]

A lot of the mouth irritaion symptoms reported here are also listed as sysmptoms for the Nicotrol Inhaler

http://media.pfizer.com/files/produc...ol_inhaler.pdf

Look at local irritation. This could actually be a side effect of the nicotine itself and NOT something inherent to the ecigarette. I would reccommend cutting dosage and fequency. Thats the thing about an ecig, it doesn't burn down so you don't know when it done! I am sure the Vg acts as a coating of some sort to lessen the symptoms of irritation.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks, DaBrat. Good info.

You are right, I'm vaping a lot differently from smoking. When I smoke I average I cig an hour - so it's a dozen puffs in about a min and a half, then most of an hour's break. When I vape, I take three or so puffs every ten minutes or so. A big, big difference.

Maybe I'll try to vape more like I smoke...

But the problem is much, much less now, so it's a matter of getting used to it, too.

And, if it does get worse, I can always cut back on both vaping and, probably more importantly, nic level. I intend to do that anyway.

Cheers,
Briar.