My MD Has Not Heard of eCigs

[DaveDzRochNY]

I popped into my MD's office today to pick up a routine bloodwork form.
As he was signing it, I mentioned that I have been using an eCig since
early June. He looked at me like I sprouted a second head, so I pulled
out the 510, took a drag and exhaled vapor. I gave a 15-second
description and said I'd bring more info when I go to see him a couple of
weeks.

So... I could slog through everything here to pull out information. Or,
I can ask for some suggestions of threads/links that would provide good
info to pass along to him.

Of course, the URL of this forum would be at the top of the list!

The FDA's original findings... some rebuttal-type articles re: FDA.

I'd like to think he'd pass the info along to his smoking patients after
he, himself, has a chance to poke around.

Thanks for any links... a very short list will be absolutely sufficient.

[paise]

Originally Posted by DaveDzRochNY

I popped into my MD's office today to pick up a routine bloodwork form.
As he was signing it, I mentioned that I have been using an eCig since
early June. He looked at me like I sprouted a second head, so I pulled
out the 510, took a drag and exhaled vapor. I gave a 15-second
description and said I'd bring more info when I go to see him a couple of
weeks.

So... I could slog through everything here to pull out information. Or,
I can ask for some suggestions of threads/links that would provide good
info to pass along to him.

Of course, the URL of this forum would be at the top of the list!

The FDA's original findings... some rebuttal-type articles re: FDA.

I'd like to think he'd pass the info along to his smoking patients after
he, himself, has a chance to poke around.

Thanks for any links... a very short list will be absolutely sufficient.

I printed the information published from the Auckland University as well as others from pulmologists who show in their research that e-cigs are safer than analogs and they contain no, none, nada of the cancer-causing ingredients that are in conventional cigarettes.

Well , when I showed up for my monthy appt and my doctor couldn't find any wheezes, franks, or crackles he was dumbfounded. I told him about the e-cigs, showed him my case with batteries, carts, and atomizer, then handed him the print outs.

The proof, as I posted on two other threads is in the stethoscope pudding. He asked me to share this with everybody because he can't believe that some 2 months ago he could hear my chest rattling like a freight train and today - nothing.

It's the first time I have gone to that man's office without having to hear him tell me I need to quit smoking. He is quite pleased with the results. I can breath, I can smell things, and I can taste things like never before. Best of all, it is testable on his equipment and shows up the same as what I feel. This was such a great visit I didn't know how to act when I went to leave.

I left him the paperwork so he can puruse at his leisure. All in all, it was the best appt I've had at a doctors office yet. I walked away pleased as did my doctor. My health with regards to my lungs, and chest and body in general is in better shape than it's been in for some time with regards to breathing-related things. It doesn't stop the lupus or the Sjogren's or even the side effects of those diseases but at least I can keep my only vice (well this and the occasional glass of wine or a Gibson - martini with onions vs olives and not made from vodka but rather vermouth and gin ) without harm and without constant sniping from my husband or my doctor. It's great. I don't think it gets better than thiss.

Check under the heading of Coughing up a Lung, I think that's the post. My post about my doctor's appt is around in the 60s in the link of thread counts.

Ecigs do help. Just get away from the analog cigarettes.

[DaveDzRochNY]

Thank you, Paise! I will look for your post(s) and scour around here a bit.

I am sure my doc will *NOT* tell patients to actually USE a PV, but will
point them in the right direction and they will make their own choice.

[ProtoType]

Doctors can get sued if they recommend it and it later becomes a problem. Plus, not to make myself sound like I am against Doctors because I am not and want to become one, but they usually do get incentives for prescribing pharmaceuticals.

That's the difference between M.D. and D.O.

[paise]

Originally Posted by ProtoType

Doctors can get sued if they recommend it and it later becomes a problem. Plus, not to make myself sound like I am against Doctors because I am not and want to become one, but they usually do get incentives for prescribing pharmaceuticals.

That's the difference between M.D. and D.O.

That's why I like my doctor. He's not a pill pusher. He's also very open to alternative and herbal treatments. He was very open esp after having gone through my records for about a decade after he bought the practice from my former doctor who retired (he was also big on herbal and alternative therapy medicine). To hear my lungs so clear without ANY wheezes or crackles - that was one happy man. He's for anything that makes a patient feel better and able to breath, walk, talk, and get around.

He and my formerly retired doctor knew up front that I come from a Native American family where nearly all of us (my generation and before as well as many of the new generation ie my children & their cousins) all spend their tour of duty, if you will, with one of our aunts who has been teaching us all herbal medicine for decades.

We don't swear off modern medicine but we do like to try herbal remedies first and/or mix the two if it is safe. For instance, pure raw honey, not that you find in a grocery store but real honey from the hive with the comb still in the jar has so many medicinal uses. It's an antiseptic, it has a natural antibiotic in it, and it works wonders for a sore throat and coughing. Did I mention it does wonders for sweetening coffee and teas? LOL! We use it alot in mint, chamomile, and carob tea (hot teas). Chamomile is a natural sedative too and the honey in place of processed and/or granulated sugar doesn't wire children up before bed.

My doctor is very open to my medicine as well as the fact that I am open to his. If we reach an impasse so to speak, we try my way for a while then if it isn't producing results as fast as he likes (esp w/infections b/c my immune system is crapped out from lupus and Sjogren's ) we go with his method and if it is safe enough, we do both together.

I have medicinal books from my "herbal aunt" as my DH refers to her, that date back to the 1600-1700s. Unfortunately, the sad part of all that is during her search to trace down our family tree, she learned that 4 out of a family of sisters that made five were murdered for being "witches" all because they were medicine women, some of which had married into white families and back during those times Native American medicine was not accepted. It was considered magic versus the actual fact of using what the earth gives us freely to combat colds and fevers, and other illnesses. Believe me, I have dug enough, cleaned enough, and prepared enough Sassafras tea for a lifetime as well as catnip tea. Sassafras is great for sore throats and catnip tea helps babies with colic. Also, a quick rub of high-quality home brew (preferably fruit-flavored) moonshine is the best thing in the world for babies who are teething. You just dip the tip of your finger into a cup then knock off any excess and rub across the gums to numb them. Works better than any OTC ointment I've ever tried and believe me, there was a time when I tried them all because I didn't want to follow our ways but after a few nights and days of no sleep, I changed my mind 100% when I rubbed my oldest's gums in it and she went blissfully off to sleep in my arms without a peep from her.

I tried everything from Orajel, frozen wet washcloths, chewing iced toys, etc.. Nothing worked. Not even Tylenol or Motrin helped that child. It was a constant cry that nothing would sooth. Then when she got colic, the remedies her pediatrician gave us didn't work so I suggsted catnip tea, which you can buy at a pharmacy if you ask for it. The pediatrician didn't see any reason why not so that's what I did and that's what got her through the colic phase.

When my second child was born, I didn't even bother questioning, I went back to what has worked for more generations than I can count.

[ProtoType]

Wow very inspirational, informative, and apprehensive. I am a big advocate on herbal remedy and "tactics." It sounds like you are doing well and your approach to your children were well guided and calculated. And it sounds like you are doing well! Keep up the good work! I'm gonna go add you to my friends list now. LOL.

[kabomb]

That's the difference between M.D. and D.O.[/quote]


D.O.- Doctor of osteopathy. A D.O. has extra training to perform osteophic manipulation. Like a chiropractor. More focus on preventative care.

[ProtoType]

Yes. It's dubbed 'OMT' for short. Their mission statement is to treat the body as a whole instead of just curing an ailment (M.D. approach). It sucks that most people do not know what a D.O. is. I am applying for both M.D. and D.O. schools. My friend works at an Orthopedic office and she said she once tried to help a patient find a local Doctor that accepts his insurance and when he saw the D.O. he said, "How did this Eye Doctor come up in this query?"

He must of thought Doctor of Optometry. At least he guessed. Most just look confused.