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Danny · 01-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Yes I will post the results as soon as I can. My appointment is on Feb 10th. I haven't been noticing the bloody taste as much recently.

Madisavapor · 01-29-2009, 09:08 PM

Yes. I have experienced the bloody saliva too.
It came out together with thick phlegm (eeuucchh) first thing in the morning.
The night before, I felt throat discomfort and felt like something was in my throat.
I felt it especially on the left side when I did a swallowing motion (sorry don't know how to describe this action in words).
After the bloody experience, I felt throat discomfort, coughed a lot but could not cough out any phlegm although I felt it there.
Later in the day I was fine.

Until now, I will get the sore throat whenever the weather is cold (including tonight. Its 2 degrees out there).

I DO think this is related to vaping, PLUS virus (phlegm definitely means virus). NOT vaping alone.

I would recommend lots of water or make yourself a nice cup of warm lemon and honey drink or lozenges.
Anything you would do to treat flu, or cold, or fever would surely help.

Finally, water. All vapers need lots and lots of it

Danny · 02-10-2009, 09:54 PM

Ok I saw my doctor and he told me that the bloody taste was most likely from the e-cig. He had never heard of it being a side effect of quitting smoking. Keep in mind though that my doctor had never heard of e-cigs before. He told me that the ingredients sounded pretty harmless and he was interested in them.

He checked my throat and said it looked a little agitated but nothing that looked serious. This could be because in the past 5 days I have smoked about 3 clove cigarettes. I had been smoke free for a month but last weekend my wife left me and filed for divorce so she could run off with some asshole, so I couldn't help myself (sorry for shoving my personal problems in here but I felt like ranting

).

I will tell you that I have been using mouthwash and drinking lots of liquid and the bloody taste is pretty much nonexistant now. I'd suggest just taking extra care of your teeth and gums and see if it makes the taste go away. I hope it helps.

TropicalBob · 02-10-2009, 10:04 PM

Ouch. This reminds me of that line in "Airplane": "Picked a bad day to ...."

Seriously, if you go back to cigs for awhile, it would be understandable. They are very good at correcting any brain chemical imbalance. And you're suffering shock and anger now. Bad chemicals result.

When it's your time to quit smoking, you will.

lorraineg57 · 04-25-2009, 06:49 PM

Late to this thread obviously but just wondering if either had ever pinpointed the culprit....?

Danny said his doc said it probably IS from e-cigs?

snowpig · 04-26-2009, 10:50 PM

Don't know if this is what happened with the OP, but I can add my experience -- as some others have mentioned, my dental hygienist said stopping smoking almost always initially causes more bleeding from the gums. So that condition is not specifically caused by vaping.

She noted that quitting smoking allows for improved blood circulation and oxygen flow in the gums, thus allowing them to bleed easier for a while. This is a temporary condition.

The hygienist also said that my gum recession had stopped, and should soon begin to show improvement.

She had my dentist write me a prescription for Peridex mouthwash and that is helping to reduce the gum bleeding very well.

Steve

edlogic · 06-15-2009, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KentSP

I think I may have found one reason regarding the spike from smoking.
Under the heading CNS on the Nicotine article on wikipedia I found some information.

Basically it says Nicotine increases dopamine and other neuron transmitter levels in the brain and Harmine(which is only produced from burning tobacco) slows the rate down which the brain can break down dopamine, so in effect I'd say Harmine which is present in smoked tobacco amplifies the effects of nicotine.

i wonder if that has anything to do with the urgent desire or the desperation feeling that i used to have with analogs - after a meal - after waking up - or any time that i went without an analog for more than an hour

i find that with e-cigs ( has only been 4 days smoke free ) i do not have or get that urgent or desperate feeling - i feel calm and my attitude is - i can wait a while with no problem before i get to my vapomatic device

like when i first get out of bed - i used to have to smoke first thing - now i can relax and wait to start vaping several minutes later without a problem

seems so weird to me

DaMulta · 07-29-2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snowpig

Don't know if this is what happened with the OP, but I can add my experience -- as some others have mentioned, my dental hygienist said stopping smoking almost always initially causes more bleeding from the gums. So that condition is not specifically caused by vaping.

She noted that quitting smoking allows for improved blood circulation and oxygen flow in the gums, thus allowing them to bleed easier for a while. This is a temporary condition.

The hygienist also said that my gum recession had stopped, and should soon begin to show improvement.

She had my dentist write me a prescription for Peridex mouthwash and that is helping to reduce the gum bleeding very well.

Steve

I've been vapping for about a month and a half, and for the last week I have had the bleeding gums....Now it's starting to clear up, from brushing them more/use of mouth wash, and using hydrogen peroxide....

I know that I get it when I vape a lot without drinking; I have noticed that part of it. So I drink a lot when I'm vapping, but my problem is that I vape all the time....

Now I smoked heavy/ pack to 3 packs a day for 15 years, and never stopping for a single day(I quit on day 1 with E-Cig). I also smoked a ton of pot during that time(which I have given up on too).

I think I'm going to go with snowpig post, and I really think that's what is going on.

foghorn · 07-29-2009, 04:51 PM

Ive experienced the same thing. In my case i have GERD, (acid reflux) that can cause the blood in mucus. You can get silent GERD when you're aasleep. You'll feel it in the morning as the acid travels up your esophagus at night without you realizing it. Also the eliquid could be drying out your sinuses. It could be either but check with your doctor.

paladinx · 07-29-2009, 09:22 PM

not sure if anyone suggested this, but sometimes in the winter, when I have the heat on , i wake up with a small bloody nose. and i never get bloody noses. But it is because the dry hair drys out the small blood vessels. I hear time and again PG drys out the throat and nose. This could cause the problem to me.

01-29-2009, 09:08 PM	#32
Madisavapor Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 85	Yes. I have experienced the bloody saliva too. It came out together with thick phlegm (eeuucchh) first thing in the morning. The night before, I felt throat discomfort and felt like something was in my throat. I felt it especially on the left side when I did a swallowing motion (sorry don't know how to describe this action in words). After the bloody experience, I felt throat discomfort, coughed a lot but could not cough out any phlegm although I felt it there. Later in the day I was fine. Until now, I will get the sore throat whenever the weather is cold (including tonight. Its 2 degrees out there). I DO think this is related to vaping, PLUS virus (phlegm definitely means virus). NOT vaping alone. I would recommend lots of water or make yourself a nice cup of warm lemon and honey drink or lozenges. Anything you would do to treat flu, or cold, or fever would surely help. Finally, water. All vapers need lots and lots of it Last edited by Madisavapor; 01-29-2009 at 11:09 PM. Reason: May be a bit deceiving, so have to repair

07-29-2009, 04:51 PM	#39
foghorn Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 32	Ive experienced the same thing. In my case i have GERD, (acid reflux) that can cause the blood in mucus. You can get silent GERD when you're aasleep. You'll feel it in the morning as the acid travels up your esophagus at night without you realizing it. Also the eliquid could be drying out your sinuses. It could be either but check with your doctor. Last edited by foghorn; 07-29-2009 at 04:56 PM.

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01-29-2009, 04:37 PM	#31
Danny Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 38	Yes I will post the results as soon as I can. My appointment is on Feb 10th. I haven't been noticing the bloody taste as much recently.

02-10-2009, 09:54 PM	#33
Danny Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Posts: 38	Ok I saw my doctor and he told me that the bloody taste was most likely from the e-cig. He had never heard of it being a side effect of quitting smoking. Keep in mind though that my doctor had never heard of e-cigs before. He told me that the ingredients sounded pretty harmless and he was interested in them. He checked my throat and said it looked a little agitated but nothing that looked serious. This could be because in the past 5 days I have smoked about 3 clove cigarettes. I had been smoke free for a month but last weekend my wife left me and filed for divorce so she could run off with some asshole, so I couldn't help myself (sorry for shoving my personal problems in here but I felt like ranting ). I will tell you that I have been using mouthwash and drinking lots of liquid and the bloody taste is pretty much nonexistant now. I'd suggest just taking extra care of your teeth and gums and see if it makes the taste go away. I hope it helps.

02-10-2009, 10:04 PM	#34
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Ouch. This reminds me of that line in "Airplane": "Picked a bad day to ...." Seriously, if you go back to cigs for awhile, it would be understandable. They are very good at correcting any brain chemical imbalance. And you're suffering shock and anger now. Bad chemicals result. When it's your time to quit smoking, you will.

04-25-2009, 06:49 PM	#35
lorraineg57 Super Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Outside Pgh, PA Posts: 380	Late to this thread obviously but just wondering if either had ever pinpointed the culprit....? Danny said his doc said it probably IS from e-cigs?

04-26-2009, 10:50 PM	#36
snowpig Full Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 11	Don't know if this is what happened with the OP, but I can add my experience -- as some others have mentioned, my dental hygienist said stopping smoking almost always initially causes more bleeding from the gums. So that condition is not specifically caused by vaping. She noted that quitting smoking allows for improved blood circulation and oxygen flow in the gums, thus allowing them to bleed easier for a while. This is a temporary condition. The hygienist also said that my gum recession had stopped, and should soon begin to show improvement. She had my dentist write me a prescription for Peridex mouthwash and that is helping to reduce the gum bleeding very well. Steve

07-29-2009, 09:22 PM	#40
paladinx ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 351	not sure if anyone suggested this, but sometimes in the winter, when I have the heat on , i wake up with a small bloody nose. and i never get bloody noses. But it is because the dry hair drys out the small blood vessels. I hear time and again PG drys out the throat and nose. This could cause the problem to me.