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lynchite · 10-26-2008, 01:30 PM

OK I've been smoking this device just under 2 weeks, I feel as though my health has improved somewhat but this morning there was a bit of blood in my saliva, only a bit but it was there.
Do you think this could just part of the process of my lungs healing? I never had it with tobacco. It scares the hell out of me when there's anything like this to be honest. I don't know whether to take it as a warning sign and leave well alone. I'm gutted cause I really enjoy e-smoking and I thought I'd found a way to enjoy a smoke without worrying about my health, but now I'm not so sure...

scrubadub · 10-26-2008, 02:32 PM

Have you been coughing much recently? Once you stop smoking and your lungs begin to clear the smokers cough can get worse. If it's a bad cough you can rupture blood vessels in your throat which will cause small amounts of blood come up in the phlegm. I had the same thing happen to me last year when I had a chest infection, small streaks of blood. The doctor said it's clots that you really need to worry about.

That said, you should really get it checked by the doctor. Where are you based? If you're in the UK then give NHS direct a ring. That was the first port of call for me and they were a great help and very reassuring.

lynchite · 10-26-2008, 02:36 PM

Thanks for the advice. Yes it was just a couple of streaks in phlegm. Not had it since, have kept checking! Will give NHS a ring tomorrow. Think I may get some zyban. It's made a bit cautious about e-cigs until they're properly tested. I'll see what they say though.

SmokingInTexas · 10-26-2008, 02:36 PM

I should be the last one to EVER give any advise of a medical nature, BUT....One thing you might look at closely is your gums. I've had an occasion where a popcorn kernel or something like that causes my gums to bleed a little. Outside of any obvious tooth issue, I would seek QUALIFIED medical advise.

PeteMcArthur · 10-26-2008, 03:07 PM

I think it is unlikely to be the e-cigs, but get yourself checked by a doctor. It is probably just bleeding gums, but better to be safe than sorry.

TropicalBob · 10-26-2008, 03:12 PM

Funny you mention gums. This week my gums would bleed if I looked at them straight! Specifically, they bleed when I floss. Now, I can't pin a problem on e-smoking because I use snus, tobacco bits and smoke pipes and cigars. But the gums are a problem.

Side note: I went looking for mouthwash specifically targeted to bleeding gums. There, on a bottom shelf at the pharmacy, was one from "Dentist's Hygiene." The only active ingredient? Vegetable glycerine. This is good stuff, people, not some scary chemical!

I'm pretty sure my own gum bleeding is from use of snus and Oliver Twist, not inhaling vapors. But it's a new problem ...

Specks in phlegm would point to lungs, however.

gep · 10-26-2008, 06:02 PM

It could also be from post nasal drip (yech..I know). But when the air is dry this happens.

Just a thought.

smoking gnu · 10-26-2008, 06:12 PM

Hi, blood in phlegm could well be the lungs could also be the sinuses. If you are concerned you should see your doctor .
Bob I used to have a problem with bleeding gums when I used nicotine gum this is a problem with gum, so I would think it the snus thats to blame.
I have actually got excellent gums since I have stared e-smoking, and a good workout with a dental hygienist he he he.
If you have got bleeding gums the sucking on your e-cig could start them to bleed. Also smoking tobacco is a very bad for gums as we all know, but it can mask major gum disease . so all people who have smoked should visit their dentist.

There ends the sermon
Amen!!

bencrest · 10-26-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lynchite

Thanks for the advice. Yes it was just a couple of streaks in phlegm. Not had it since, have kept checking! Will give NHS a ring tomorrow. Think I may get some zyban. It's made a bit cautious about e-cigs until they're properly tested. I'll see what they say though.

It's just my opinion, but I'd pick a normal cig over Zyban any day of the week.

Have you tried Zyban before, and if so, how did you get on with it, I've heard several stories of people getting serious side effects from it.

KentSP · 10-27-2008, 12:32 AM

I quit for 8 months after my last Zyban tablet a few years back but ended up smoking again cause of too many parties. I also know of someone else that gave up four years ago with Zyban and never smoked since. On the other hand I know 2 people that tried zyban and found it did nothing for them and one person that got heart palpitations and stopped using it. I have since tried Zyban again twice and failed both times. I think with Zyban you really just got one shot and you have to want to stop smoking when you hit day 7 of 1 pill a day then you must stop totally no one cig a day trying to cut down because you'll waste your time and money. I found while i was on Zyban I'd wake up in the mornings feeling really charged up and postive only side effect I ever got was fantom smells I'd smell things that reminded me of something but as soon as I tried to think what it was the smell would escape me. During the 7 day period before quitting I smoked more than I ever smoked before and day 8 with no cigs was a little difficult and by a week in was simple. However I am convinced Zyban changed something in my brain regarding nicotine because when I did start smoking again I became a chain smoker and felt no matter how much I smoked I couldn't get any satisfaction like the receptors in my brain were somehow blocked. All in all I think I have taken 8 boxes of Zyban if I add my three tries of using it together and I always stuck to the dosage as I believe it can be quite dangerous to your heart. Bottom Line you must want to quit.

10-26-2008, 01:30 PM	#1
lynchite Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: North West UK Posts: 68	blood in saliva.. OK I've been smoking this device just under 2 weeks, I feel as though my health has improved somewhat but this morning there was a bit of blood in my saliva, only a bit but it was there. Do you think this could just part of the process of my lungs healing? I never had it with tobacco. It scares the hell out of me when there's anything like this to be honest. I don't know whether to take it as a warning sign and leave well alone. I'm gutted cause I really enjoy e-smoking and I thought I'd found a way to enjoy a smoke without worrying about my health, but now I'm not so sure...

10-26-2008, 02:36 PM	#4
SmokingInTexas ECF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 229	I should be the last one to EVER give any advise of a medical nature, BUT....One thing you might look at closely is your gums. I've had an occasion where a popcorn kernel or something like that causes my gums to bleed a little. Outside of any obvious tooth issue, I would seek QUALIFIED medical advise. __________________ Tex [ I used to be very indecisive, but now...I'm not so sure.]

10-26-2008, 03:07 PM	#5
PeteMcArthur It all ended in tears Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 781	I think it is unlikely to be the e-cigs, but get yourself checked by a doctor. It is probably just bleeding gums, but better to be safe than sorry. __________________

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10-26-2008, 02:32 PM	#2
scrubadub ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 404	Have you been coughing much recently? Once you stop smoking and your lungs begin to clear the smokers cough can get worse. If it's a bad cough you can rupture blood vessels in your throat which will cause small amounts of blood come up in the phlegm. I had the same thing happen to me last year when I had a chest infection, small streaks of blood. The doctor said it's clots that you really need to worry about. That said, you should really get it checked by the doctor. Where are you based? If you're in the UK then give NHS direct a ring. That was the first port of call for me and they were a great help and very reassuring.

10-26-2008, 03:12 PM	#6
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Funny you mention gums. This week my gums would bleed if I looked at them straight! Specifically, they bleed when I floss. Now, I can't pin a problem on e-smoking because I use snus, tobacco bits and smoke pipes and cigars. But the gums are a problem. Side note: I went looking for mouthwash specifically targeted to bleeding gums. There, on a bottom shelf at the pharmacy, was one from "Dentist's Hygiene." The only active ingredient? Vegetable glycerine. This is good stuff, people, not some scary chemical! I'm pretty sure my own gum bleeding is from use of snus and Oliver Twist, not inhaling vapors. But it's a new problem ... Specks in phlegm would point to lungs, however.

10-26-2008, 06:02 PM	#7
gep Moved On Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 1,057	It could also be from post nasal drip (yech..I know). But when the air is dry this happens. Just a thought.

10-26-2008, 06:12 PM	#8
smoking gnu ECF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 291	Hi, blood in phlegm could well be the lungs could also be the sinuses. If you are concerned you should see your doctor . Bob I used to have a problem with bleeding gums when I used nicotine gum this is a problem with gum, so I would think it the snus thats to blame. I have actually got excellent gums since I have stared e-smoking, and a good workout with a dental hygienist he he he. If you have got bleeding gums the sucking on your e-cig could start them to bleed. Also smoking tobacco is a very bad for gums as we all know, but it can mask major gum disease . so all people who have smoked should visit their dentist. There ends the sermon Amen!!

10-27-2008, 12:32 AM	#10
KentSP Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 44	I quit for 8 months after my last Zyban tablet a few years back but ended up smoking again cause of too many parties. I also know of someone else that gave up four years ago with Zyban and never smoked since. On the other hand I know 2 people that tried zyban and found it did nothing for them and one person that got heart palpitations and stopped using it. I have since tried Zyban again twice and failed both times. I think with Zyban you really just got one shot and you have to want to stop smoking when you hit day 7 of 1 pill a day then you must stop totally no one cig a day trying to cut down because you'll waste your time and money. I found while i was on Zyban I'd wake up in the mornings feeling really charged up and postive only side effect I ever got was fantom smells I'd smell things that reminded me of something but as soon as I tried to think what it was the smell would escape me. During the 7 day period before quitting I smoked more than I ever smoked before and day 8 with no cigs was a little difficult and by a week in was simple. However I am convinced Zyban changed something in my brain regarding nicotine because when I did start smoking again I became a chain smoker and felt no matter how much I smoked I couldn't get any satisfaction like the receptors in my brain were somehow blocked. All in all I think I have taken 8 boxes of Zyban if I add my three tries of using it together and I always stuck to the dosage as I believe it can be quite dangerous to your heart. Bottom Line you must want to quit.