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A list of symptoms when quitting tobacco and changing to an ecigarette in Health and Medical Issues; I'd definitely see a dentist asap. No one knows that much about the effects of e-cigs but your gums are ...
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    I'd definitely see a dentist asap. No one knows that much about the effects of e-cigs but your gums are important. Make sure it's not a gum disease.

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    Yes, I know about gums being important. They are the things that keep teeth in the mouth. I did say I probably needed to go to a dentist. It probably is some kind of gum disease, which has perhaps been masked by smoking.
    I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem.

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    It seems no one really knows about a lot of the side effects is what I was trying to get at. I know my mouth has gotten tender. No one has answered my cough problem. I wish you luck. I wasn't clear in my answer.

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    SuziQ have you read this thread?

    These damn cuts in my mouth..

    ladybug51, I hope we have some members that can help you out on your question. I don't recall off hand if we have any members with COPD.

    I know people have posted that their asthma has gotten better but not sure if COPD has been discussed in detail.

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    Yes on bleeding gums, which I've noted in posts before. Not sure if it's e-smoking connected, since I also use snus and dissolvable tobacco. But the combination is making a mess of my mouth! I've got to make some changes.

    My major concern is pain in right shoulder/arm area. Again, I don't think e-smoking did it, but it did begin after I began e-smoking. I started e-smoking in January and the pain began about four months later. Getting progressively worse. No, I don't want to spend money insurance won't cover to go see a specialist, which is what my GP said to do.

    P.S. I lost the cigarette cough -- but not all coughs. Still cough after lying down in bed each night. Still sometimes cough on inhalation of high-nic stuff. I've been e-smoking 11 months. Cough is worsening, not getting better, every month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Yes, I know about gums being important. They are the things that keep teeth in the mouth. I did say I probably needed to go to a dentist. It probably is some kind of gum disease, which has perhaps been masked by smoking.
    I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem.
    yes Suzi...everytime i brush my teeth now im spitting blood...

    it never happened before i started esmoking...i dont believe that its a coincidence...

    i wonder if this is a common occurrence amongst esmokers...or if the amount we vape has some bearing on its appearance...or on its severity if it does appear...or is it just coincidental-which personally i doubt...

    in fact i wonder whats causing it,and how...

    a poll on this phenomenon might be interesting...

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    dnakr: yes, I did read that thread, but I think that is talking about mouth ulcers.

    TB: I did do a search on bleeding gums before writing, but there wasn't a great deal on it.
    Thankfully, I seem to have lost the 'smoker's cough' that I had after being a fairly dedicated smoker for 30 solid years. I am sorry it isn't the same for you and you still cough. Don't know how you are going to fix that. I hope you aren't in the same boat as ladybugs51. I am sure I have read somewhere on here about someone else having shoulder pain (unless you have said this before, but I don't think it was you).

    Mr Darcy: hoorah! I knew there would be someone else. In fact, there might be a lot of others. I wouldn't know how to go about starting a poll on it.
    I seem to remember my dentist saying once, that smoking reduces the circulation in the gums and that is why smokers have rubbish teeth (obviously, not a quote). I think it probably does mask gingivitis if that is the case. Perhaps our circulation is improving and now the gum problems are showing. I hate the dentist and I will try to fix it with eludril or cordysol mouthwash for a week or so and see what happens then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satire View Post
    8 days without cigs for me (got my package in on the 5th)

    Mark me down for muscle aches on Trapezius (pull your shoulders towards your head, that guy) , Rhomboidius major (small muscle on the back that pulls your shoulder blade towards your spine, pretend like you are pulling the cord on a lawn mower), and I think Spinalis thoracis (or maybe it's that entire group of spinal muscles). I did help my dad string up a barbed wire fence and I've been using stimulants to help study (they make your muscles clench a bit), but these aren't exactly new activities for me and I've never been sore like this before. If I ever do get sore (incredibly rarely as I'm a college student and am usually reading) it's like one muscle in one spot and is quite obvious why it is sore, not a soreness covering my entire back from top to bottom and left to right. No way to tell for sure but I know my body and this small amount of physical activity can not account for the soreness, and I'm 21 and rather fit (though not buff by any standard), I don't think I have ever even had a sore back before.
    TB: I found the post about shoulder/back aching

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    I was going to ask this same question. I try to take good care of my teeth but right after I started vaping, one day a tooth on my upper right back area started to bleed when I was flossing. I was a bit shocked because I can't even recall the last time my teeth bled. I waited to see if it was going to be an ongoing problem.

    The next morning when I flossed, that tooth did not bleed but the same tooth on the opposite side did! Again I was surprised. Again I waited to see if it was going to continue but the next morning, no bleeding...and no bleeding since.

    I should mention that the day I started esmoking, I was having a problem with my sinuses and the beginning of a cold...but I vaped anyway. I ended up getting sicker with that cold than I have ever been in my life....terrible sinus headaches, sweats and muscle aches. I lived on 3 advil and 2 sudafed throughout the day. I even missed 2 days of work (plus sick over the weekend) which hasn't happened to me since sometime in the '80s! I swear that intensity was due to the vaping.

    But everything went away and I feel better now than I ever have....haven't had even the slightest cold, sinus or tooth problem since. I still smoke analogs some and have still been spitting some stuff up but my "smoking cough" is gone.

    I do sometimes wonder what long term effects we might see but I'm not really worried about it....it beats smoking. But that's why I am hesitant to add anything else to "the mix"....additional flavorings, oils, etc. I just spent 36 years filling my lungs with a lot of junk. I know I have to use the PG to do this but I'm not adding anything else til I have a better idea of the safety of its inhalation.

    I think a poll would be a good idea, along with an idea of how long the person has been vaping. Maybe we can all expect to see more problems down the road. Who knows?

    Lu

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    Maybe an additional poll as well to attempt to consolidate a list of all the reported side effects, and gauge their prevalence. It would have to be pretty clever to include things like esmoking history, etc so maybe just a list of symptoms people can confirm or deny...


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