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vaping and health questions please help
Clearly vaping is a better alternative to smoking, but how big of a detrimental effect do experienced vapers notice on their lungs and cardiovascular ability? I'm asking this because i am about to buy a 510 as well as some juice in addition to my blu. i do enjoy vaping but don't want to continue doing this is it's really not much better than smoking analogs. Also, has anyone tried the juices from healthcabin?
Last edited by lordmage; 08-31-2009 at 10:42 AM.
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Everything I've read on this forum from long-term vapers has been positive with positive lung/health improvements. I'm sure others will chime in as well, and I think there are threads on the subject too.
But you already know one thing: They are healthier than a real cigarette!
Last edited by KevinD872; 08-31-2009 at 11:03 AM.
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hope Op don't mind i changed the title to more accurately represent the topic i am also gonna move it to the health section for better coverage
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What I Noticed
Hey,
I have been vaping for a few days, but I have experience in smoking & quitting.
I have tried to quit analogs 5 times in the 15 years I have been smoking. Each time i quit, I found the same things to happen.
Within the 1st few days I began to smell & taste a bit better.
My lungs would feel like they where aching, but after research i found that meant they are healing. The Cilla in my lungs where growing back after being burned away from the heat of the smoke inhaled, so with that came the smokers cough to clear my lungs from the crap from the analogs.
Its my second day. i already have a smokers cough that is clearing my lungs. In fact, it happened faster this time. Maybe its because my lungs are staying moist from the vapor. Not sure.
The ingredients in E-Juice is simple. Nicotine, PG or VG, water, flavor & maybe a few different things here & there. Although these are found in regular analogs, IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE OF THE 600-4000 known bad for you ingredients in analogs such as the following:
Fungicides and pesticides -- Cause many types of cancers and birth defects.
Cadmium -- Linked to lung and prostate cancer.
Benzene -- Linked to leukemia.
Formaldehyde -- Linked to lung cancer.
Nickel -- Causes increased susceptibility to lung infections.
Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive element
and on and on and on.
No matter what, even if Vaping is not the greatest thing, (i think it is ) its 100000000X better than analogs.
Now you mentioned Cardio-vascular. Nicotine itself does raise your BP somewhat, but so does getting angry, eating, talking, & sex. So is it really bad for you?, jury is still out on that one.
But like everything, to much is not good. Diet & exercise is a good idea. Smokers find it hard to exercise because they run out of breath. Their lungs are full of crap & their O2 exchange suffers because of it. You cant feed your body the O2 it needs when you cant get it in.
i will keep you updated on my progress. I am going to re-start my working out routine while I continue to Vap to see if it effects me or not.
C YA around,
Bear
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I work as an EMT, and have been very cautious about my health, its been about a month off now.
Negative affects: vaping has the potential to dry out your throat and making it very sore however I got a upper GI series xray that shows there are no perminent damage, its just really sore from drying, Another danger is pleural effusion, over moistened spot in the lung, or pleurisy (dry spot on the lung) this is caused not only by the moisture form vapor, but from the chemicals left from tobacco clearing out of your lungs. I dont think it is very common however, and again leaves no perminent damage, it pressents as chest pain, Negative pressure can relieve the pain (exhale hard without exhaling, kinda like when you plug your nose and blow to equalize pressure in your ears, only for your lungs)
Nicotine, can cause some known heart problems, but the general consensis is you get less from vaping then from smoking. However there does seem to be more of a suppression of appitite from vaping (i dont know why just my experience)
Positives: within the first week you will start to have more energy, and generally feel better, soon after your lungs will start to clear out, and you may feel sick and have difficulty breathing, exercise, lots of fluids, and good diet are very important through the "cleansing" stage. it can take as long as 2 months to fully clear out your system (depending on how much you smoke) but after you are totally clear of tobacco and adjusted to vaping, you should feel great! like a non-smoker, save the nicotine.
These are just my opinions and observations of mine and others experiences
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I have Fibromyalgia and Lupus and I have felt better since I switched from smoking to vaping. I had a cold that didn't turn into bronchitis, which hasn't happened in 20 years. And I haven't had a flare that wasn't due to monthly hormone changes. I don't think I've felt this well for this long in a very long time.
If you are interested in info on all of the research into inhaling PG done in the past 60 years check out vapersclub.com. I found it when I was searching for info after I decided to switch to e-cigs to save money and my mom asked about what I'd be inhaling.
My sister in law has emphysema and has an appointment with her lung doctor in Sept. She started vaping,and quit smoking, 2 weeks after I did and I can't wait to see what the results from her tests show. I know she is breathing better and has started walking about 3 miles a day, but it will be nice to be able to have medical evidence to show the family that these really are better for us.
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PG & VG are not bio-cumulative, so there would be no long term effects.
Studies conducted on the inhalation of PG and VG show that peak exposure can cause respiratory irritation, but it isn't permanent. If your throat is getting sore, you should be drinking more water, and/or vaping less.
It is FAR better than smoking cigarettes.
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I just know I feel better. Much better
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