Lungs, Emphysema and breathing.

[samysam1313]

sammysam, here's a cut and paste from Nhaler subforum on the herbs added to his lung renewal juice:


Hey everyone,
I sent out the samples the other day and some of you have gotten them already...So here is the deal...I mixed up some different flavors but they are all the same strength...Some of the flavors may not disguise the taste of the elixer, so some may taste better than others...So please dont use these all day every day...I think the best time to use them would be maybe two short vaping sessions a day...PLEASE do not confuse this for a remedy or substitute for any type of treatmant that you might need....I am making no medical claims with this and do not want to give anyone false hope....This is purely holistic and can be used as way to help the natural healing prcess that is hopefully taking place in your lungs since quitting or cutting down on analogs...Please be extremely care ful if you have Alergies...Below are all the ingredients
Elecampane Root and Flower
Mulletein leaf
Osha Root
Yerba Mansa(whole Plant)
Yerba Santa Leaf
Dandelion Leaf
Licorice root
Lobieala Root
In a base of pure grain alcohol, distilled water and vegetable glycerine.

I add another 20% of Reishi Mushroom which is a Chinese herb considered to be helpful for many years with a wide range of ailments...it was once called the tonic of the emporers because it was very expensive($90 a gram) until just a couple years ago.

Thanks rjp. Appreciate that. The forum is too big to read everything. Holistic. I should have guessed. Some of those things I never heard of.

[Jodans]

That sucks. I know how you feel. Hopefully you're right and it won't last long. I'm not too good with abbreviations. What's MRSA?

MRSA stands for Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureu. Basically a staph infection from hell. A "super bug" that's now resistant to methicillin, amoxicillin, penicillin, oxacillin, and many other antibiotics. The by-product of our great infatuation with anti-bacterial sanitation.

In the end, that doctor may have just been tired or wrong with this CDC thing, but either way, if there is a chance of MRSA, I'd be happy to suffer a few more days. It is NOT a joke, it kills.

[samysam1313]

MRSA stands for Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureu. Basically a staph infection from hell. A "super bug" that's now resistant to methicillin, amoxicillin, penicillin, oxacillin, and many other antibiotics. The by-product of our great infatuation with anti-bacterial sanitation.

In the end, that doctor may have just been tired or wrong with this CDC thing, but either way, if there is a chance of MRSA, I'd be happy to suffer a few more days. It is NOT a joke, it kills.

Gee! Sorry I made you write that. LOL. How can you even remember it? Thanks though. I understand about the over-use of penicillin and antibiotics. All those anti-bacterial products we use around our homes doesn't help either. We're making ourselves sick with cleanliness. Especially children who haven't had a chance to develope antibodies yet.

[rjp44]

Thanks rjp. Appreciate that. The forum is too big to read everything. Holistic. I should have guessed. Some of those things I never heard of.

My sister has been into herbal medicine for many years and didn't recognize all of them, but some she did and the owner of Nhaler is very knowledgable. I've also learned that PG kills airborn virus and bacteria and some hospitals add it to the venilation system because of that.

[Jodans]

I remember it because I'm trying to get back into the medical field and raised in a medical/military family, oh and Google is awesome. (I couldn't remember the exact spelling and didn't feel like whipping out any training texts.)
Fear not, however, because I copied and pasted so no hard attempts at writing it all.

Yes, we are killing ourselves with cleanliness. There is a reason so many of these super bugs start in hospitals and go to homes rather than starting in homes and going to hospitals. Personally I take the darned if you do, darned if you don't stance on it.
In other news the bronchitis is starting to feel a LOT better. Whew.

Gee! Sorry I made you write that. LOL. How can you even remember it? Thanks though. I understand about the over-use of penicillin and antibiotics. All those anti-bacterial products we use around our homes doesn't help either. We're making ourselves sick with cleanliness. Especially children who haven't had a chance to develope antibodies yet.

[samysam1313]

I remember it because I'm trying to get back into the medical field and raised in a medical/military family, oh and Google is awesome. (I couldn't remember the exact spelling and didn't feel like whipping out any training texts.)
Fear not, however, because I copied and pasted so no hard attempts at writing it all.

Yes, we are killing ourselves with cleanliness. There is a reason so many of these super bugs start in hospitals and go to homes rather than starting in homes and going to hospitals. Personally I take the darned if you do, darned if you don't stance on it.
In other news the bronchitis is starting to feel a LOT better. Whew.

I don't feel so guilty about asking you now Jodans. I'd have done the same. I always wondered how people in medical professions can remember those long weird names. It's like legaleese too. Why can't they just make words for these things in plain readable and pronouncable English. Guess you need a really good memory or even a photograptic one to get in those fields. Leaves me out. Glad you're feeling better. It really does suck being sick. Especially with all the H1N1 now. They scare people with crap like that. What they don't tell you is that more people die from regular flu every year than those who have died of H1N1. Pandemic. What a pile of it. As for the super bugs. That's from over use of antibiotics, but have you noticed that more often than not, people go into hospital for something then end up catching something there and then die from it. I have known people this has happened to. This is not due to antibiotics. It's just plain old nurses and doctors going from patient to patient without washing their hands. Hospitals are supposed to be more antiseptic than anywhere else, but they're not. You're supposed to go to a hospital to get well, not to die. It's scary going to a hospital these days. There's always something running around those supposedely clean places.

[Jodans]

Ahhhh yes, the long medical words like hemopneumothorax, or even weird ones like tachycardia.
Once you get down to it, a lot of the "medical language" is surprisingly easy
to decipher. Just a bunch of prefixes and suffixes jammed together to make the words.
Hemopneumothorax for example is hemo meaning blood, pneumo meaning air and thorax meaning chest. So it is blood and air (or gasses) in the pleural cavity of the chest.
Tachycardia: Tachy- meaning swift or rapid, and cardia meaning heart.
So to me, these are actually better than plain English. Even if I had never heard of hemopneumothorax and someone came and told me to take care of the patient because he has it, even if I don't know EXACTLY where or what, I would be able to deduce it has something to do with blood and air in the chest so at least I wouldn't be jamming needles into his legs because I didn't understand what I was being told to take care of.
In the end you just memorize a couple hundred prefixes and suffixes that will be used together to create the thousands of medical terms rather than the thousands of terms themselves.

Then as you get deeper into the field, or higher trained you start learning more, and bigger words, but these are learned on top of these other words you've already learned and have put to such use that they are a memorized part of your vocabulary.
Words like the methicillin resistant staph aureus, thats a term that once I get back into the medical field, I may go a long time without having to say or write anything more than "MRSA" for it. If I do need to write or say the entire thing, I'll have time to look it up first since it won't be an emergency situation, since in a emergency whoever needs to hear it will recognize MRSA.
Now legal terminology, on the other hand, is beyond me. I think deep down lawyers know they are evil and make up their words as a form of self punishment.

I'm sorry to see such a cynical view of hospitals, really I am.
In my time in the hospitals, it was very very rare I ever saw a doctor or nurse moving from room to room without washing or at least using hand sanitizer. Even then, they are (or should be) wearing gloves while working with the patient. Even if I didn't wash/sanitize my hands or wear gloves in the interest of YOUR health, I'm sure going to do it in the interest of MY health.
Though admittedly there are always a few idiots running around, however for the most part, the people I have seen are pretty good about the washing. On the other hand, it was very rare I ever saw a patients friends and family wash up before interacting with the sick and weakened patient. After sitting in a waiting room where other sick people have been, or people interacting with other sick people have been, (who I rarely see wash their hands AFTER visiting their loved one either), they usually run into the room as soon as visitation is allowed, putting their hands all over their loved ones face, arms and hands.
Now I've not researched this or anything and definitely wouldn't say 'It's all the family", but to me, and my common sense, this seems like a more likely story. Either way, between the staff and the family, stuff is bound to happen. Regardless though, most of the deaths I have seen were from the original conditions that caused the hospitalization.

It is important to note with the super bugs, it is not just the over use of antibiotics. While we DO use them a little too much, the biggest problem is when someone who is using them does not finish the entire regimen as prescribed. They take half their antibiotics, start feeling better and being sick of popping pills daily stop the rest before their infection is entirely killed off. This gives the germs that survive the chance to sample this antibiotic and adapt.

With the H1N1, pandemic has nothing to do with deaths really as much as how quickly/easily it is spreading. Pandemic really just means widespread.
Now, not to say that this isn't bull. I've read conspiracy theories/investigative reports online about the pharmaceutical companies introducing more cases of a current (or similar symptomed) spreading infection so they can speed through the red tape of getting their new, untested anti-H1N1 (insert other infection here) vaccine/cure onto the market. I cannot speak for or against the validity of these reports, since online research doesn't constitute real knowledge of a situation without being able to verify your sources. (IMHO anyway)

Sorry for the novel. Just my two cents, and once these fingers start moving on the keyboard it is hard to get them to stop.

I don't feel so guilty about asking you now Jodans. I'd have done the same. I always wondered how people in medical professions can remember those long weird names.

[samysam1313]

I'm sorry to see such a cynical view of hospitals, really I am.
In my time in the hospitals, it was very very rare I ever saw a doctor or nurse moving from room to room without washing or at least using hand sanitizer. Even then, they are (or should be) wearing gloves while working with the patient. Even if I didn't wash/sanitize my hands or wear gloves in the interest of YOUR health, I'm sure going to do it in the interest of MY health.



Sorry for the novel. Just my two cents, and once these fingers start moving on the keyboard it is hard to get them to stop.

Everything you say makes sense Jodans. The reason I thought the spread of viruses was spread by doctors and nurses, was because we had reports of this on the news. There were studies done of hospitals in our area and this was found to be the case for some of them. There is such a shortage of doctors here and that could be why. They are so rushed. No problem about the novel. I do the same thing.

[Lyndale]

Everything you say makes sense Jodans. The reason I thought the spread of viruses was spread by doctors and nurses, was because we had reports of this on the news. There were studies done of hospitals in our area and this was found to be the case for some of them. There is such a shortage of doctors here and that could be why. They are so rushed. No problem about the novel. I do the same thing.

Many hospitals, at least here in the states, are instituting more programs/procedures to help reduce the amount of germ spreading that is done by employees. I remember, quite a few years back, about hospitals implementing use of a chemical that would show areas that were missed during a person's hand washing. This was to help employees identify flawed hand washing techniques they might have been using (not scrubbing enough around the nail beds, not washing long enough, etc.)

People in the medical professions are trying to reduce the risk of transmitting infections between patients. Unfortunately, there will always be some risk since these organisms are made to hitchhike via people.

[rant] And just an added aside about a major pet-peeve of mine: I am, apparently, one of the few sane consumers of household cleaning products. I'm finding it harder and harder to find non-anti-bacterial dish soaps, surface cleaners, etc. I understand that many of my old favorites such as 409 were intrinsically anti-bacterially just because of their ingredients, but what I don't need is anti-bacterial toilet bowl cleaner. I never plan on eating out of or near my toilet. I also don't need anti-bacterial bathtub cleaner. I also don't need my kitchen counters sanitized for my protection; I'm a civilized person well versed in proper food handling and the use of cutting boards and containers. The biggest risk of catching a bug around the house is from improper food handling, not from an unsterilized toilet bowl. [/rant]

And to get back on the thread topic: after just one week of vaping, I've noticed my lungs cleared up a bit. But now I'm noticing that they're feeling a little mucus-y. I think I might start coughing up the crud soon.

[samysam1313]

[rant] And just an added aside about a major pet-peeve of mine: I am, apparently, one of the few sane consumers of household cleaning products. I'm finding it harder and harder to find non-anti-bacterial dish soaps, surface cleaners, etc. I understand that many of my old favorites such as 409 were intrinsically anti-bacterially just because of their ingredients, but what I don't need is anti-bacterial toilet bowl cleaner. I never plan on eating out of or near my toilet. I also don't need anti-bacterial bathtub cleaner. I also don't need my kitchen counters sanitized for my protection; I'm a civilized person well versed in proper food handling and the use of cutting boards and containers. The biggest risk of catching a bug around the house is from improper food handling, not from an unsterilized toilet bowl. [/rant]

And to get back on the thread topic: after just one week of vaping, I've noticed my lungs cleared up a bit. But now I'm noticing that they're feeling a little mucus-y. I think I might start coughing up the crud soon.

Nice to read that your lungs are clearing up. Funny, with me it has cleared my muscous and flem. I also breath better. I agree about all that antibacterial stuff. It's a bit ridiculous. We didn't get sick from our kitchens before, so why all the antibacterial stuff now-a-days? Have you seen the commercial a while back where they were showing how bad it was to use a sponge? They showed a woman wiping her kitchen with a piece of chicken and making it look like a sponge was just as bad. Commercials are really dumb now-a-days. Did you know that a wooden cutting board is better than a plastic one. The wood has natural antibacterial properties. They make a fuss over bacteria, meanwhile they are poisoning us with all the chemicals they put in everything. They have so many air freshener ads now. Every time I see one of those I wonder what poison is in there. Fabreeze is the worst. And now they're putting it in everything. Spray everything so you won't get any germs. No, no germs, just kill us with your chemicals instead. You can hardly find anything else now. Was a time when monopolies were illegal. Now they're everywhere.