Dental/Gums

[vapomike]

I know I had a tooth ache before I started vaping. Like it would hurt like crazy until I brushed and rinsed with listerine in the morning. Then I started vaping and haven't had the pains since, though I don't know if it is coincidence or not. Though I'm not starting back those nasty analogs just too find out.

[steel23]

Originally Posted by June

I was told by my dentist that smoking toughens your gums. So, if you stop smoking and start vaping, would your gums become less tough and more sensitive?

Smoking does NOT toughen your gums in a good way. What it does is pump them full of toxins and suppress microcirculation. This has the effect of MASKING the usual disease markers such as bleeding. Cessation of smoking restores the normal vascular response and so smokers will often begin experiencing more bleeding than usual to normal stimuli like brushing shortly after they quit. This is a normal phenomenon.

Seminolewind, if you recently quit smoking, this could also contribute to your bleeding away from your abcess site.

[seminolewind]

Originally Posted by steel23

Hi Seminolewind,

What you are describing sounds like a necrotic tooth causing an abcess with a severe amount of destruction on the crown or surrounding bone (hence the referral).

Conditions like that have often been brewing for a long time prior to any severe discomfort felt. So, that's a dental problem unrelated to vaping.

The bleeding around the rest of your mouth can easily be caused by you slacking on your hygiene for "the last year or two". Again, highly unlikely to be from vaping.

Good luck and I hope everything turns out well.

Yes it is a dying tooth. I saw the abcess on xray. I don't think my problem is related to poor hygiene as much as stupidly going to bed at night and reading and eating candy. Sheesh, my secret's out.

However, my original question was if my gums could be red or irritated by vaping. I strongly doubt that vaping caused periodontal disease. I'll let you know what the perio says. Hopefully I can get an appt. this week. Thanks for your input!

[seminolewind]

I think my questions probably have more to do with being afraid of being taken. New dentist, recommended this periodontist. But my parents like him and my mom had work done by the perio, so I guess it's okay.

[steel23]

I still doubt that what you are describing was caused by vaping. Sounds like you have have other issues and that vaping is coincidental.

And btw, I'd not worry about being taken. Your referring doc gets no benefit for sending you away from his office and to a specialist's due to concern. Please do update with the perio's diagnosis. Take care!

[seminolewind]

I made an appt for tomorrow, but can't keep it, so I am probably going Monday. So far, everyone likes him.
Has anyone heard about periodontal work with laser? I see it's the new thing.

[nubee]

Gum disease is caused by a bacterial source that can grow and take hold in your mouth for a variety of reasons - poor dental care, genes, mouth acidity, etc - much like the bacteria that cause cavities.

What you have described are the symptoms of the disease and indicate the problem already exisits.

The main damage from analogs to your mouth, teeth, gums comes from the exposure to very high and prolonged heat you generate smoking an analog - along with all those 4000+ chemicals mixed in.

PG vapor can also irratate the soft mouth tissue further adding to the effect.

The treatment is to go in and totally clean all the living spaces for the bacteria and then continue to prevent them from returning.

Eventually, gum and bone tissue will begin to regrow and replace what was lost but never back to 100%

Me? No gum disease but the wife's a hygienist. I got a "mouthful" of lecture about my analog habit EVERY visit

As for vaping, the denist even wanted to know about it and my last check up saw a significant change for the better in my overall tissue. I think he's wondering if it'll put him out of business.

[rfun6]

A dentist told my dad to use Vince. Its a pink powder you brush your teeth with. Can't always find it in the store. Have to ask them to order it for you. It worked for him.

[seminolewind]

I think alot has to do with the fact that I sleep with my mouth open, I am on some meds for 8 years that cause dry mouth, etc. I've heard that dry mouth is not a good thing cause you have little saliva that neutralizes some bacteria. Vaping, too, can cause dry mouth, but I haven't vaped long enough (6 months) for that to contribute to the long term damage that was there. (I am not a dentist)

[jwalsh14]

I realize this thread is mostly talking about gums but I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with dental work such as bridges. I have been vaping for about two weeks and my bridge suddenly fell out. I would especially like to hear from the dentists.

Thanks.