Dental/Gums

[seminolewind]

I realize this thread is mostly talking about gums but I was wondering if anyone has had any problems with dental work such as bridges. I have been vaping for about two weeks and my bridge suddenly fell out. I would especially like to hear from the dentists.

Thanks.

Well since I've been vaping, 2 teeth have cracked and broke. (not related to gums or absessed tooth). PG or age/big fillings/etc?

[seminolewind]

I still doubt that what you are describing was caused by vaping. Sounds like you have have other issues and that vaping is coincidental.

And btw, I'd not worry about being taken. Your referring doc gets no benefit for sending you away from his office and to a specialist's due to concern. Please do update with the perio's diagnosis. Take care!

Went to the perio. He started right away. Got all sides done, some stitching, one bone graft, and a tooth pulled . Clean bill of health.
What I can't believe is after 25 years of absolute pain free dental , he was not so pain free. I kept saying stop, then he give me more novacaine-4-5 times!!! Maybe he got a bad batch. Anyway, 3k later, I have been scraped, filed, picked, cut, stitched, grafted..... I'm going to have to take out a loan for the dental work now.

[steel23]

Bridges falling out and teeth cracking are related to age of the work done, amount of stress that they must bear, fillings that are too big/should have been crowned, untreated recurrent decay, etc.
No way from vaping.

Seminolewind, I feel your pain with the loan damage. And sorry to hear about your lack of profound anesthesia. That couldn't have been fun. Glad you're doing better now.
Take care.

[WarrLordd]

Now am confused i made another thread with concerns of having a blood troat in the morning but now as i read here am starting to think it's from my gums. I mean i wa aware that i been vaping hard sometimes at night before i go to sleep and seems like my troat use to hurt use to be a bit lazy to drink liquids :-p.. But that's not the case i only seem to have blood in my troat. You know like when brush your teeth you have a bunch of slimed blood and need to bring up the mucas to spit it out. But druing the day i tedn to try and do the same thing and everything seems okay.. So am wondering if it's my gums that tends to bleed at night and stay in my troat till i get up

Ps: My gums do bleed when i brush my teeth also. But didn't think i would do so while alseep

[steel23]

Now am confused i made another thread with concerns of having a blood troat in the morning but now as i read here am starting to think it's from my gums. I mean i wa aware that i been vaping hard sometimes at night before i go to sleep and seems like my troat use to hurt use to be a bit lazy to drink liquids :-p.. But that's not the case i only seem to have blood in my troat. You know like when brush your teeth you have a bunch of slimed blood and need to bring up the mucas to spit it out. But druing the day i tedn to try and do the same thing and everything seems okay.. So am wondering if it's my gums that tends to bleed at night and stay in my troat till i get up

Ps: My gums do bleed when i brush my teeth also. But didn't think i would do so while alseep

Warrlord, you should see a dentist and a physician to determine the source of your bleeding. There is only such much that I can diagnose from a vague online description of symptoms. Please do yourself a favor and get this checked. You will feel better about it.

[whiskey]

I'm Glad Someone Brought This Up I Learned A lot. I Too Asked My Dentist & He Said He Wasn't Up On The Info Yet...But I Guess Some Of what You Say Sounds Normal. I Wonder Too.

[Madame Psychosis]

steel23, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's interested to see your replies. It's a benefit to us all when someone with relevant expertise chimes in. (Certainly, we can't expect you to field diagnoses...for your own sanity, and partially because I hope no one starts posting pictures .)
Vaping is still little-known to health professionals, so there are limited sources for information out there right now.

Welcome to the forum, too.

seminolewind, I hope you're recovering OK!

[BlueSun]

I'm also thankful that we have steel23 on here to answer our questions. Dental health is something that I'm very fussy about, so vaping and its effects on my teeth and gums are important to me. If the vapor is making my mouth, especially my tongue, feel dry, won't that effect my gums and teeth, too? I drink a lot of water, but that doesn't seem to increase saliva production. The person commenting on here about possibly seeing cases similar to "meth mouth" is a bit concerning. I'm an ex-cigar smoker, and I don't recall my mouth feeling this dry, ever.

Perhaps something can be done to the e-juice to reduce the effects of PG/VG drying - I'm no scientist. Is drinking lots of water enough?

I just don't understand how it can't be doing something to our dental health. Surely, vaping can't be as bad as inhaling nasty illegal substances, as we've had people on here who've been vaping for well over a year, but xerostomnia is xerostomnia no matter what causes it.

Thanks for all your input. Please don't get mad at me, as I'm not trying to attack e-cigs.

PS: As I said before, my dentist wasn't pleased with me when I told him about inhaling PG vapor. My teeth and gums are in good condition.

[CaptJay]

Why was your dentist unhappy about you inhaling PG vapor? Its in food that we eat - well if it has E1520 on hte package label we do.
I'm interested in his reasons or rather what he told you his reasons were.
I too btw have found my mouth is drier (and I do understand that a drier mouth is bad for the teeth) but I put that down to the difference between the way I smoke the PV (does that sentence sound wrong? lol) and how I smoke an analog - one the vapor goes into the mouth with not so much inhaling to lungs and the other is all straight to lungs.

[BlueSun]

Hey CaptJay,

When I showed him my PV and explained it to him, he was not at all amused and plainly told me that I shouldn't use it because the dehydrating properties of vaporized PG can cause damage to dental health. My dentist told me that some of the issues I've had with my gums over the years are likely due to a dry mouth caused by certain medications, as well as breathing through my mouth more than my nose - especially when sleeping. (For the last six months I've been training myself to breath through my nose as much as I can, so that has definitely helped.)

PG is in all sorts of foods we eat, it's even in my toothpaste and non-alcoholic mouthwash, but we're taking in large doses of it in vaporized form on a regular basis. Being a casual ex-cigar smoker, I only bring the vapor into my mouth, occasionally exhaling through my nose. I had a vaping session this afternoon and my mouth still feels kind of icky from it.

I've been reading a bit more about xerostomia, and one site says that drinking plenty of water should help, but why does my mouth still feel like the moisture has been sucked out of it no matter how much I drink? The tip of my tongue is a bit red and irritated, too.

Hmm... would it be possible to add artificial saliva to e-liquid?

I do hope that this issue can be addressed in the future as e-liquid improves.