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    Default I'm 9 weeks pregnant - advice please!!

    Hi everyone
    I'm 9 weeks pregnant with our first baby and managed to quit smoking completely for 8 days and struggled really hard with it. I gave in and am smoking now again - although I have cut down to half the amount I previously smoked. I am really freaking out and worried that I may not be able to stop smoking. I'm horrified of the dangers that I will be putting my baby through with smoking.
    I have read other people's opinions on this forum regarding vaping versus analogue smoking during pregnancy and I think I would rather give vaping a try with the intent of quitting vaping also eventually during my pregnancy.
    I have only discovered today that vaping exists. As I am 9 weeks gone already and need 'quick advice and direction' I was really hoping that someone could give me advice on the best quality vaping products I should use and if possible which supplier to get them from.
    Thanks so much in advance

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    Wish I had something better to say, but there is a warning not to vape if you're pregnant.

    Maybe someone could tell you more. If nothing else, which is safer PG or VG. But still, I'd have to think long and hard about vaping.

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    if it was me and i was pregnant i wouldnt smoke or vape.

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    Congrats Sinead! jj2 is right: there is not much we know about this, except for the printed warning in some PV kits. The best thing you can do is find a kindly, realistic and practically minded nurse or doctor who is not a rabid antismoker and talk through the options with them. Print off some info on vaping for them and discuss it thoroughly.



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    My advice given that:

    1. Cigarettes are harmful to you and your unborn child.
    2. No one knows yet if there are any risks associated with vaping, whether you're pregnant or not.

    So why risk it?

    I wish you and your baby the best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sineadm View Post
    Hi everyone
    I'm 9 weeks pregnant with our first baby and managed to quit smoking completely for 8 days and struggled really hard with it. I gave in and am smoking now again - although I have cut down to half the amount I previously smoked. I am really freaking out and worried that I may not be able to stop smoking. I'm horrified of the dangers that I will be putting my baby through with smoking.
    I have read other people's opinions on this forum regarding vaping versus analogue smoking during pregnancy and I think I would rather give vaping a try with the intent of quitting vaping also eventually during my pregnancy.
    I have only discovered today that vaping exists. As I am 9 weeks gone already and need 'quick advice and direction' I was really hoping that someone could give me advice on the best quality vaping products I should use and if possible which supplier to get them from.
    Thanks so much in advance
    Not being a doctor and not knowing the actual substances of tobacco combustion that may harm a fetus, and like others suggested vaping may not but if you must, I'd suggest going with no nicotine eliquid with a 510 manual ecig (I'd recommend that to anyone starting out or not) as it does well in vapor production for a cig style ecig ...and I believe... (see a recent thread on 'vapor')

    Clouds of vapor - why?

    ...that seeing the vapor is a big part of the habit, and that might help get you through any nicotine withdrawal. And you might just puff rather than inhale.

    You can get the 510 many places usually but many are now out of 510's (and for good reason, imho ;-) but try here:

    Joye Dura-C 510 Manual Switch Starter Kit - Black - freshsmoking.com
    Good vendor with a decent price a 2 day shipping.

    And for the no nicotine juice, along with getting the vapor to help with the withdrawal, you might want to pick up a 'tobacco' flavor too. That may help or it might not :-) You decide, but you can get them here in Camel, tobacco and mlb (marlboro) or other non tobacco flavors here:


    Janty NoN Liquid for BelowZeroLiquids - dietSMOKES.com
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    My wife knows your struggles. We are expecting our first (and only) child and as soon as she found out she dropped the smokes although I have not been able to as of yet. I have to agree with the consensus here and say why risk it with something that has not been tested as of yet.

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    Wife also has same issue, if you're someone who just can't QUIT, I think vaping is a viable option, and I'm waiting for my e-cigs as we speak to get my wife OFF cigarettes. I can't MAKE HER QUIT, only she can, but if she's willing to VAPE instead of SMOKE, I think it's safe to say it's better then nothing. Smoking cigarettes I think it is safe to say would be MORE harmful then Vaping, even IF vaping is harmful during a pregnancy. It's the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion, while it may not be the best thing to be doing, at least it's not AS BAD. Just as I'd rather see someone SMOKING then DRINKING ALCOHOL during a pregnancy, I'd rather see her VAPING then SMOKING.. just my 2 cents and logic.

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    The effects of nicotine are seen in every trimester of pregnancy, from increased spontaneous abortions in the first trimester, to increased premature delivery rates and decreased birth weights in the final trimester. The birth weight of a baby is dependent on two factors: the gestational age of the fetus at the time of delivery and the rate of fetal growth. Nicotine has been shown to affect both of these factors. Carbon monoxide, also found in tobacco, forms carboxyhemoglobin, which inhibits the release of oxygen into fetal tissues. Nicotine readily gains access to the fetal compartment via the placenta, with fetal concentrations generally 15% higher than maternal levels. The primary metabolite of nicotine, cotinine, has a half-life of 15 to 20 hours and serum concentrations that are 10-fold higher than nicotine; thus, cotinine provides a better index of nicotine exposure because of its longer half-life. Nicotine concentrates in fetal blood, amniotic fluid, and breastmilk. The fetus and neonate may also have environmental tobacco exposure that may be significant. In animal models and humans, nicotine increases maternal blood pressure and heart rate, with a concomitant reduction in uterine blood flow. An increase in fetal heart rate is also seen, which is thought to be caused by catecholamine release. The impact of nicotine on the respiratory and central nervous system is also reviewed. In conclusion, the physiological effect of tobacco on fetal growth seems to be a culmination of both the vasoconstrictive effects of nicotine on the uterine and potentially the umbilical artery and the effects on oxygenation by carboxyhemoglobin.
    from here : ht tp:// linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0146000596800796

    So nicotine alone is harmful to the fetus. I can't find any studies regarding the effects of PG or VG on a fetus. I would have to say, go with your gut. You KNOW smoking is bad for the baby. There are studies about the effects of nicotine. Smoking is also one of the hardest addictions to overcome. If you can't quit smoking on your own, talk to your doctor and discuss all possible options to find what is right for you and your baby.

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    Do not smoke and do not have any nicotine. It is important that you find a way to quit entirely.

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