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paulyc44 · 10-14-2009, 04:19 AM

I am surprised no one has mentioned this. After vaping for a few weeks I noticed that my carts have small notches on the end that slips into the atty. Upon further inspection I noticed that the part of the cart that slips into the atty has also thinned out compared to a new cart.

Obviously this is occuring over time, however this also means that they are melting on a microscopic level and being inhaled into my lungs. I do know that inhaling burning plastic is poisonous and this concerns me quite a bit.

I know some will tell me to not hit it every 2 seconds but that's not a solution. Some will say don't use a cart more than a few times but this is not a solution either because regarless, a new cart begins the melting process not visible to the eye.

Has anyone else noticed there carts melting?

Pumaman · 10-16-2009, 03:35 PM

I assume you have a 510? If so, you need to align your cartridges so the flat edges don't sit on the edges of the bridge. Just use search, the details are posted here somewhere.

Scottbee · 10-16-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyc44

I am surprised no one has mentioned this. After vaping for a few weeks I noticed that my carts have small notches on the end that slips into the atty. Upon further inspection I noticed that the part of the cart that slips into the atty has also thinned out compared to a new cart.

Obviously this is occuring over time, however this also means that they are melting on a microscopic level and being inhaled into my lungs. I do know that inhaling burning plastic is poisonous and this concerns me quite a bit.

I know some will tell me to not hit it every 2 seconds but that's not a solution. Some will say don't use a cart more than a few times but this is not a solution either because regarless, a new cart begins the melting process not visible to the eye.

Has anyone else noticed there carts melting?

I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are actually melting the plastic cart. By design, the bridge doesn't get nearly hot enough to vaporize the liquid, much less melt plastic. The coil is a different story, it can get hot enough to melt plastic, but in normal use it never will. And, the plastic of the cart never comes anywhere remotely close to the coil.

Pumaman · 10-17-2009, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottbee

I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are actually melting the plastic cart. By design, the bridge doesn't get nearly hot enough to vaporize the liquid, much less melt plastic. The coil is a different story, it can get hot enough to melt plastic, but in normal use it never will. And, the plastic of the cart never comes anywhere remotely close to the coil.

I have a couple myself, the edges did indeed melt right where the were intersecting the edge of the bridge if I didn't align them.

Nestran · 10-17-2009, 03:54 AM

I must concur. There is an irregular edge there.

Nestran

CJsKee · 10-17-2009, 04:26 AM

I use 901 carts on my 510 and haven't had a problem with them melting...and I don't have to align any particular way.

Scottbee · 10-17-2009, 04:35 AM

I use 901 carts on my 510 as well.. and a couple of my 510 attys run REALLY HOT. I can see a deformation where the bridge has contacted the plastic of the cart.... but absolutely no melting.

The true melting point of most plastics is between 300 and 600 degrees. That's substantially higher than any bridge temperatures that I've ever seen.

Deflection temperatures run about 100 degrees lower than that. So deflection I could believe (barely).

oldtechno · 10-17-2009, 04:43 AM

I took a quick look at mine...most of them have only been used for about 2 days at most. So far, so good.

Smart idea though...everybody should take a quick look.

Vaporer · 10-17-2009, 04:55 AM

Is this occuring at 3.7v or are you the 5 & 6v burners?
I could see the possibility of the higher heat from the higher voltage doing damage.
It wasn't designed for it.

I have a couple 510 carts I modified the outlets for the draw I prefer. I've used both daily for over 2 months. They fit well and other than normal insertion scuffing, they look fine.

At higher temps, I'd be more concerned of producing Acrolein................

ladyraj · 10-17-2009, 05:12 AM

I had the same experience with carts melting when I ran my PV too hot. Now I alternate between PVs for those heavier vaping periods.

10-14-2009, 04:19 AM	#1
paulyc44 Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 57	Plastic melting carts = poison I am surprised no one has mentioned this. After vaping for a few weeks I noticed that my carts have small notches on the end that slips into the atty. Upon further inspection I noticed that the part of the cart that slips into the atty has also thinned out compared to a new cart. Obviously this is occuring over time, however this also means that they are melting on a microscopic level and being inhaled into my lungs. I do know that inhaling burning plastic is poisonous and this concerns me quite a bit. I know some will tell me to not hit it every 2 seconds but that's not a solution. Some will say don't use a cart more than a few times but this is not a solution either because regarless, a new cart begins the melting process not visible to the eye. Has anyone else noticed there carts melting?

10-16-2009, 03:35 PM	#2
Pumaman Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 105	I assume you have a 510? If so, you need to align your cartridges so the flat edges don't sit on the edges of the bridge. Just use search, the details are posted here somewhere. __________________

10-17-2009, 04:26 AM	#6
CJsKee Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 300	I use 901 carts on my 510 and haven't had a problem with them melting...and I don't have to align any particular way. __________________ SUPPORT CASAA VISIT CASAA'S FORUM

10-17-2009, 04:35 AM	#7
Scottbee Super Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Okauchee Lake, WI Posts: 1,116	I use 901 carts on my 510 as well.. and a couple of my 510 attys run REALLY HOT. I can see a deformation where the bridge has contacted the plastic of the cart.... but absolutely no melting. The true melting point of most plastics is between 300 and 600 degrees. That's substantially higher than any bridge temperatures that I've ever seen. Deflection temperatures run about 100 degrees lower than that. So deflection I could believe (barely). __________________

10-17-2009, 04:43 AM	#8
oldtechno Super Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: United States of America Posts: 453	I took a quick look at mine...most of them have only been used for about 2 days at most. So far, so good. Smart idea though...everybody should take a quick look. __________________

10-17-2009, 03:54 AM	#5
Nestran Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 241	I must concur. There is an irregular edge there. Nestran

10-17-2009, 04:55 AM	#9
Vaporer Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 590	Is this occuring at 3.7v or are you the 5 & 6v burners? I could see the possibility of the higher heat from the higher voltage doing damage. It wasn't designed for it. I have a couple 510 carts I modified the outlets for the draw I prefer. I've used both daily for over 2 months. They fit well and other than normal insertion scuffing, they look fine. At higher temps, I'd be more concerned of producing Acrolein................ __________________ Vaporer Analog free since 7-11-2009 510, 801, 901, DSE601 Pipe, Mini Pipe & my mods

10-17-2009, 05:12 AM	#10
ladyraj Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 830	I had the same experience with carts melting when I ran my PV too hot. Now I alternate between PVs for those heavier vaping periods.

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