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Old 10-16-2009, 06:31 AM   #1
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Default Kidney stones?

I few years ago I suffered from kidney stones. Not the nice semi rounded calcium stones but the jagged ouch stones made of uric acids.

I was consuming not enough water, not enough vegies, coffee by the gallon and chain smoking a chimney to shame.

Anyone with kidney stone issues have an increased instance of stones while vaping pg or vg?
esp pg due to lactic acid build up.
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Not an issue for me at least as of yet, Dred, but you can be sure I am watching carefully (especially as I have only one kidney left)!
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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I had a stone 12 years ago and passed another last year. Still have a 2mm waiting to torture me on the right side.

Same as you, they are the uric acid spike balls that drop you to the floor for 4 hours at a time. Good times!

Anyway, I don't think we are ingesting enough PG to have an effect and my frequency of stones is so sparce I doubt I would be able to blame any in the future on PG. Unless they get to be a regular thing.

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Ya the spike balls of bleeding YEAOUCH! more like napalm dipped razor blades, rolled in broken glass misery.

I don't roll on the floor I pray for death, but the worst part is when they hit and tear near the end and you get that none so gentle reminder that something is NOT right.

I am getting the feeling I might be up for another passing of torture soon. Most likely not from vaping but the huge amount of relifin and advil I was on recently.
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That's odd, I have recently started to produce stones myself. I haven't had any change in my diet and I was wondering if this is the missing link? Of course none of the testing the last two times I had this problem has pointed to why I was making the stones. Just lucky I guess.

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Uric stones are caused by a crystal build up of uric acids.

Increased fluid and electrolytes help keeping it to a min.
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I suffer from them as well. The culprit? Cola! After cutting coke and pepsi from my diet no more stones. I vape like a maniac and no problems so far.
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Mac, are your stones Uric or Calcified, or that other type I cant remember. I know the doc said to me to not even think about trying to diet control the issues outside of increased water intake. The stuff that causes my stones is in everything and to try and eliminate it would cause a malnutrition issue.

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Ya the spike balls of bleeding YEAOUCH! more like napalm dipped razor blades, rolled in broken glass misery.

I don't roll on the floor I pray for death, but the worst part is when they hit and tear near the end and you get that none so gentle reminder that something is NOT right.

I am getting the feeling I might be up for another passing of torture soon. Most likely not from vaping but the huge amount of relifin and advil I was on recently.

LOL right? Suckers get into the ureter and start giving you those occasional "Hey dude, still here!" pokes.

I don't like thinking about the final stage of departure. Makes my doodlebobbers try to go back to where they came from.

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Old 10-16-2009, 11:05 PM   #10
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The Radiologist told, that's all he does, is look for stones, there has been so many with this problem, they opened up a department special for this and that's all he does now, is look for stone and tell everybody he meets the same thing, he said, in hopes of reaching people.

He told me, "to be honest with you, I would be out of a job, if people would simply drink a full glass of water in the mornings when then get up. He said, that is all it takes, to prevent stones from ever forming. Water flushes the kidneys and prevents crystals from forming.

He was an older man, and he told me, he'd really like to be able to retire one day, and said at the beginning, he only had a few a day, and sometimes, he got to stay home all day, even 2 days in a row. He laughed and told me, But at this rate, he said, I'll never retire,

He also told me, that drinking alot of soda pop can cause crystals to form, especially if a person doesn't drink water. He said ppl make the mistake of assuming we get enough water, in our diet for other things, and if enough time goes by without it, crystals start to form and he said they can even be seen on the underclothes, and even if a person cetches it then and starts a habit of drinking a glass of water upon rising each the morning, it can be reversed.

another sign he said, is a sharp piercing pain that goes diagnally from your back where the kidneys are, diagonally down towards the groin, that increases over time wiht intensity.

I have noticed, twinges in my back, kidney area, whenever I don't drink water daily, it's like a warning. I have also noticed that when I was using PG I was waking up with extremely dry mouth, dry eyes, so I just keep a bottle of water next to the bed now, so I don't have to get up in the night, and have no excuse not to drink it. Lol.

Drinking Gatorade once in awhile and mixing my own liquid using only VG, unflavored nic, and faeries finest flavoring instead of using the pre-mixed e-liquid that is straight PG has helped with this, too.

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