Vaping cause mouth cancer?

[Lashes]

Haha I know nicotine in general does not cause cancer. I guess it was just more of a wear and tear type of question, like the act of absorbing 500,000mg or nicotine through your oral cavities over a 30 year period could in effect cause a tumor to develop.

I guess thats not likely given the posts here. Which is good news

I just feel like im still burning my taste-buds off when I suck the vapor directly over my tongue. I'm still new though so I guess I'll figure it out.

[sbphotog]

can you get mouth cancer from vaping?... well, let's break this down ...heat; not a carcinagen, nicotine; not a carcinagen, PG; not a carcinagen, glycerine; not a carcinagen, water; not a carcinagen, candy flavoring; not a carcinagen.

So, unless there are hidden ingredients in the juice that we aren't being told about, I'd say there is no direct threat of mouth cancer from a PV or the juice.

But let's be real here, people are exposed to carcinagens every day of their lives...second hand smoke, car exhaust, air pollution, the list could go on forever. And I'm not gonna let a pathetic scare tactic from the FDA make me second guess whether or not I could be doing myself harm by vaping. I already know the risks of consuming nicotine...and the rest of the ingredients have already been regarded as safe by the FDA (maybe not in regard to the PV, but in general). PG have previously been regarded as safe, as well as glycerine, and the flavoring ingredients...
The FDA wouldn't even be involved right now if it wasn't for the big companies whining like little babies about them losing more money.

[sbphotog]

Originally Posted by Lashes

Haha I know nicotine in general does not cause cancer. I guess it was just more of a wear and tear type of question, like the act of absorbing 500,000mg or nicotine through your oral cavities over a 30 year period could in effect cause a tumor to develop.

I guess thats not likely given the posts here. Which is good news

I just feel like im still burning my taste-buds off when I suck the vapor directly over my tongue. I'm still new though so I guess I'll figure it out.

maybe youre just sensetive to PG, try reduced PG or VG instead.

[Giantfan]

Originally Posted by kno

im going to have to disagre on account that this is a forum geared towards discussion and learning on these products... the title was structured as a question and it deserves all response therein

sure e-cigs are going to cost big tobacco alot of money, but that doesnt mean that we should throw someone's topics and concerns out just because we love our habit

smokers react the same way when someone challenges their beloved cigarette.

i believe all things should be discussed openly, good and bad.

Yeah, but this is a silly topic. It's in fact ignorant. It's like saying "if you eat too many vetetables, will it cause cancer?"

Not saying that vaping is the same, but this is purely a random question with nothing to back it up.

[RDWHAHB]

Originally Posted by Giantfan

Yeah, but this is a silly topic. It's in fact ignorant. It's like saying "if you eat too many vetetables, will it cause cancer?"

Not saying that vaping is the same, but this is purely a random question with nothing to back it up.

Maybe a bit naive and lacking background, but it was a question not a conclusion. Isn't this the place for them?

You think it is silly for someone to ask if using an e-cigarette can cause mouth cancer? It's the very first thing I researched before purchasing.

[kno]

Originally Posted by Giantfan

Yeah, but this is a silly topic. It's in fact ignorant. It's like saying "if you eat too many vetetables, will it cause cancer?"

Not saying that vaping is the same, but this is purely a random question with nothing to back it up.

do questions need somethign to back them up?

if he said it without a question mark as a statement it would, but as a question? no

if someone wants to know if too many veggies cause cancer, it's legitimate, no matter how silly it seems to you or i

and i think that question is relevant - i've wondered the same thing

people ask to learn, not to be scrutinized over the validity of their personal wonderings


and after reading this entire thread i'm only convinced of one thing...



i'd do kristen.

[Tundra86]

I've been inadvertly tasting the e-liquid in my mouth with my crappy made ptb mods I quickly spit it out I hope it won't do any damage in the long run, I know its a poison if ingested or makes contact with the skin but I seem to have a high tolerance for it since I've been smoking for so long I don't think it will effect me much.

[kno]

you'd have to get quite a bit in your mouth to get poisoned depending on the mg, at least 1 ml of 36x, and i'd spit that out fast too.

[TaketheRedPill]

Originally Posted by Giantfan

I know of this, but cells need to already be damaged and maybe even cancerous before nicotine will have that effect.

Just look at the Swedish snus example. Snus has almost no relationship with oral cancer. I think 20% of Swedish men use snus, and yet there are no statistics that support any increase in disease. (besides a slight increase in pancreatic cancer, which is tiny. And, it isn't even that convincing since a lot of the people in that study were former smokers).

I would agree about cells would likely have to have their vulnerability compromised - 20+years of smoking for instance, or genetic vulnerability - i.e., family history - sure, that makes sense. And I'm certainly not arguing one way or the other on the research I mentioned - just putting it out there for consideration.

Not sure if I understand the whole snus argument, tho.

Lower cancer but higher cardiovascular risk in snu users, according to SwedishMatch (see item #16, referenced on page 3 here): http://whqlibdoc.who.int/mnh/tobac_conv/F5140507.pdf .

here's a surprising summary - rate of oral cancer in snu's users, Scandanavia (see page 5). I wonder what has changed in swedish snus between 1937 and 2009 that would invalidate the studies quoted below?

https://bora.uib.no/bitstream/1956/2...e_OO_34(6).pdf

The first study from Scandinavia on snus-associated soft tissue changes was published in 1937 [27]. In that report, among 496 men with cancer of the oral cavity,pharynx, larynx and or oesophagus registered between
1930±36, 91% were daily snus users, and 70% of 68 cases of outer oral cavity cancers used snus. In another case control study, it has been concluded that chewing of tobacco is common among men, with the cases being too small to suggest that it could be a risk factor. It has been stated that, snus dipping in Sweden apparently increases the risk of oral cancer at the site where snu. is placed ®ve- to six-fold [28].

and then there's this study in 2004 by the WHO:

Major study links ’snus’ spit tobacco to cancer |Oral Cancer News

A study carried out by the World Health Organisation and released this week followed 10,000 Norwegians, of whom two-thirds were snus-lovers. The results show that users of the popular chewing tobacco increase their risk of contracting mouth or pancreatic cancer by 67%.

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Even with snus, there is a wide conflict between what is being said by snu-marketing companies and what is being said by medical research. So, whether it's vaping or snus, the jury is obviously still out and more definitive research is needed. The percentage of smokers who use Pv's is statistically insignificant right now and complicated by the fact that many PV users already have a 20 or 30 year history of smoking. Hopefully with more smokers and, more importantly, more younger smokers using PVs to quit tobacco smoking, a larger and more diverse study group will emerge which will provide a method for determining the answers we are all looking for regarding safety.

Hope this helps!

[TropicalBob]

Good lord, I've been called a happy bunny. That's a first, Janet.

How about this: let's start a thread called "Vaping Causes Uterine Cancer?" You never know unless you ask the knowledgeable community of vapers, right?

Yeh, really ...