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wonder · 12-22-2008, 01:30 AM

With the proliferation of electronic cigarettes and the accessories that come with such as E-liquid and the like comes responsibility. As many of us enjoy using these products we also have to take care to keep them out of the hands of children and pets. A single cartridge can contain 16mg of nicotine which is a size that can be consumed by a children or pet. 60 milligrams of nicotine is enough to kill an adult which equates to approximately 6 cigarettes. Every year children are brought to the emergency room for nicotine poisoning. As adults we need to keep all of these nicotine cartridges, refills, and e-liquids away from children and pets. It is our responsibility to control the storage and disposal of these items. My daughter loves to pick things out of the garbage, which makes me have to be extra careful about the way I dispose of these items. What I do is save a 2 liter bottle of soda and drop all of the old cartridges in there and then tighten. Comments are welcome and I express these concerns as a parent, I am not a doctor.

I wanted to cross post this in this forum to get the word out and see if anyone had better ideas.

Original post is at Disposable Electronic Cigarette Cigar Blog if you want to leave comments there. Happy holidays to all of the eSmokers.

Frankie · 12-22-2008, 01:06 PM

I placed all my nic things in a steel money box, locked it and placed on the highest shelf on the glassed up balcony (fridge conditions there). I only dilute in a 4 ml bottle, which is together with my cig with me all the time or on a really high shelf when I go to sleep. I am looking for 2 ml dropper bottle at the moment.

Our youngest, who is just 13 months old, cannot get to the nic, I hope. Our older boys were given a lecture focusing on the fatal results of even a skin contact. I suppose, they would be able to get the key at times and kill themselves with all the nic in the bottles, but then it would be just as easy to get the key to the gun safe or - much easier - just to jump off the balcony...

I do not believe in child caps. I have seen my own kids getting through them easily, even when they were quite small (actually they were rather skilled at that, because my wife can only use one hand so they were always helping her with the bottles that have those nuisances). I believe in lecturing the kids - AND locking these things up. Maybe I am just paranoid, but then, I do not force anybody to do the same. My kids, my responsibility, my conscience, my locked steel money box

Bertrand · 12-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Even if the hospital is given the bottle, they cannot figure out its concentration from what the retailers write on it at present. If they believed what was written on it, they would drastically underestimate the concentration. There is no phone number, or even a reference to the fact it contains nicotine on some of them. I suspect this will change after the first few deaths.

wonder · 12-22-2008, 02:05 PM

Glad to see I am not the only paranoid one.

tonyph · 12-22-2008, 02:37 PM

I think child caps help. Not because they can prevent the child opening the container but becauase they warn of dangerous content much more effectively than labeling.

Frankie · 12-22-2008, 02:46 PM

Many people have problems opening them. If the bottle contains liguid which is dangerous when spilled (after fumbling with the cap), the cap makes it dangerous to ADULTS, too. Unless there is dropper cap beneath the childproof cap, so in case of an accident you only spill a few drops instead of 30 ml liquid.

TropicalBob · 12-22-2008, 06:58 PM

Childproofing bottles of poison is not going to be an option. It will be mandated. As will proper labels of contents and warnings about unsafe use, etc.

mothakaf · 12-25-2008, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

Childproofing bottles of poison is not going to be an option. It will be mandated. As will proper labels of contents and warnings about unsafe use, etc.

How many miligramms of propylene glycole does the E-liquid contain?

TropicalBob · 12-27-2008, 02:21 AM

It's not measured that way in e-liquids. It's most often stated as a percentage. A normal percentile is about 80% propylene glycol. See Health New Zealand for a more complete breakdown of everything in the liquid and the inhaled/exhaled vapor.

mmosaad · 04-28-2009, 06:42 PM

hi all, pls avdice where to buy refills and e-liquid in Egypt

12-22-2008, 01:30 AM	#1
wonder USA Supplier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: US Posts: 112	Electronic Cigarette Cartridges / E-Liquid Safety With the proliferation of electronic cigarettes and the accessories that come with such as E-liquid and the like comes responsibility. As many of us enjoy using these products we also have to take care to keep them out of the hands of children and pets. A single cartridge can contain 16mg of nicotine which is a size that can be consumed by a children or pet. 60 milligrams of nicotine is enough to kill an adult which equates to approximately 6 cigarettes. Every year children are brought to the emergency room for nicotine poisoning. As adults we need to keep all of these nicotine cartridges, refills, and e-liquids away from children and pets. It is our responsibility to control the storage and disposal of these items. My daughter loves to pick things out of the garbage, which makes me have to be extra careful about the way I dispose of these items. What I do is save a 2 liter bottle of soda and drop all of the old cartridges in there and then tighten. Comments are welcome and I express these concerns as a parent, I am not a doctor. I wanted to cross post this in this forum to get the word out and see if anyone had better ideas. Original post is at Disposable Electronic Cigarette Cigar Blog if you want to leave comments there. Happy holidays to all of the eSmokers. __________________ Dan http://www.smokelesswonder.com

12-22-2008, 01:06 PM	#2
Frankie ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Slovakia Posts: 820	I placed all my nic things in a steel money box, locked it and placed on the highest shelf on the glassed up balcony (fridge conditions there). I only dilute in a 4 ml bottle, which is together with my cig with me all the time or on a really high shelf when I go to sleep. I am looking for 2 ml dropper bottle at the moment. Our youngest, who is just 13 months old, cannot get to the nic, I hope. Our older boys were given a lecture focusing on the fatal results of even a skin contact. I suppose, they would be able to get the key at times and kill themselves with all the nic in the bottles, but then it would be just as easy to get the key to the gun safe or - much easier - just to jump off the balcony... I do not believe in child caps. I have seen my own kids getting through them easily, even when they were quite small (actually they were rather skilled at that, because my wife can only use one hand so they were always helping her with the bottles that have those nuisances). I believe in lecturing the kids - AND locking these things up. Maybe I am just paranoid, but then, I do not force anybody to do the same. My kids, my responsibility, my conscience, my locked steel money box __________________

12-22-2008, 02:05 PM	#4
wonder USA Supplier Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: US Posts: 112	Glad to see I am not the only paranoid one. __________________ Dan http://www.smokelesswonder.com

12-22-2008, 02:46 PM	#6
Frankie ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Slovakia Posts: 820	Many people have problems opening them. If the bottle contains liguid which is dangerous when spilled (after fumbling with the cap), the cap makes it dangerous to ADULTS, too. Unless there is dropper cap beneath the childproof cap, so in case of an accident you only spill a few drops instead of 30 ml liquid. __________________

04-28-2009, 06:42 PM	#10
mmosaad Full Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Egypt Posts: 18	where to buy hi all, pls avdice where to buy refills and e-liquid in Egypt

12-22-2008, 01:14 PM	#3
Bertrand ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 467	Even if the hospital is given the bottle, they cannot figure out its concentration from what the retailers write on it at present. If they believed what was written on it, they would drastically underestimate the concentration. There is no phone number, or even a reference to the fact it contains nicotine on some of them. I suspect this will change after the first few deaths.

12-22-2008, 02:37 PM	#5
tonyph Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 50	I think child caps help. Not because they can prevent the child opening the container but becauase they warn of dangerous content much more effectively than labeling.

12-22-2008, 06:58 PM	#7
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Childproofing bottles of poison is not going to be an option. It will be mandated. As will proper labels of contents and warnings about unsafe use, etc.

12-27-2008, 02:21 AM	#9
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	It's not measured that way in e-liquids. It's most often stated as a percentage. A normal percentile is about 80% propylene glycol. See Health New Zealand for a more complete breakdown of everything in the liquid and the inhaled/exhaled vapor.

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