Pg, lactic acid, ph

[JohnnyVapor]

I hate to be a downer on this thread, but the body naturally regulates its pH levels very well, and the small addition of PG to lactic acid isn't going to make a huge impact. Lactic acid is naturally created in the body through natural metabolism of pyruvate, and is created in large amounts during exercise. This is what causes muscle soreness.

I'm not a doctor or a health care professional, but as long as you are keeping yourself well hydrated no additional steps should need to be taken. If you're very concerned, then by all means eat more vegetables, but I wouldn't consider it necessary.

This advice is of course for average people - if your doctor tells you to be concerned about acidosis due to an existing condition, then you may need to take additional steps.

[Vaporista]

Originally Posted by JohnnyVapor

I hate to be a downer on this thread, but the body naturally regulates its pH levels very well, and the small addition of PG to lactic acid isn't going to make a huge impact. Lactic acid is naturally created in the body through natural metabolism of pyruvate, and is created in large amounts during exercise. This is what causes muscle soreness.

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Well we don't know exactly how much PG we are converting into Lactic acid - we all vape different amounts.
Over acidic bodies over the years are, I do believe, the cause of many of the health problems we are experiencing in later life. It's a subject well worth reading up on.

[brownbrown4]

Originally Posted by Vaporista

Well we don't know exactly how much PG we are converting into Lactic acid - we all vape different amounts.
Over acidic bodies over the years are, I do believe, the cause of many of the health problems we are experiencing in later life. It's a subject well worth reading up on.

Vaporista is right.. our lifestyles now are already acidic.. no throw more on top and its not good.

Our bodies do TRY to regulate its PH levels. but after days, months and years of Mc'd s and fried foods, its not going to hold up..

Johnny, your not a downer, but go get a PH test and let us know what you get. Unless your a vegan, and never eat fast food, drinks soda, or eat candy..

[SDHorseShoe]

What if you use glycerin for vaping as opposed to pg? Same or not?

[brownbrown4]

Originally Posted by SDHorseShoe

What if you use glycerin for vaping as opposed to pg? Same or not?

not same . glycerin turns into Glucose... a type of sugar... extra sugar gets turns into fat, the body stores extra acid in the fat to get it out of the blood stream... (like johnny said the body compensates)
then when you burn the fat, the acid is released back into the blood stream, compounding to what acid you already have in your blood.

Its crazy stuff....

[treelvr]

(sodium bicarbonite = baking soda, just FYI)

[JohnnyVapor]

Originally Posted by brownbrown4

Vaporista is right.. our lifestyles now are already acidic.. no throw more on top and its not good.

Our bodies do TRY to regulate its PH levels. but after days, months and years of Mc'd s and fried foods, its not going to hold up..

Johnny, your not a downer, but go get a PH test and let us know what you get. Unless your a vegan, and never eat fast food, drinks soda, or eat candy..

I'm certainly not a vegan, but I am a weightlifter, and while there's a decent amount of talk in bodybuilding forums about lactic acid, it's not usually centered around long term effects, more around short term elimination(for increased endurance). I can't say I've had much negative health effects from it, but it might be a good idea to check with weightlifters and marathon runners about long term effects of lactic acid buildup.

I'm honestly not sure about the amount of lactic acid created by vaping PG, but in my personal experience I'd bet it's less than what would be created by a daily workout or run. I've not noticed any additional problems by working out and vaping, which should in theory give me a large amount of lactic acid buildup.

Again, this is just my experience as a heavy vaper and lifter. If you have concerns, you shoul talk to your doctor, and if you notice any strange symptoms, DEFINITELY talk to your doctor.

[TropicalBob]

Get your PH checked with every blood test. I do. I've been e-smoking daily for two years. NO CHANGE IN BLOOD PH. It's "normal". This acid-alkaline doctrine is a relatively new nutrition sub-cult. Don't take what I say next as gospel, but I read an entire book on this - and threw the book in the trash upon completion.

There are hundreds of nutrition sub-cults out there, all with "the answer". The question too often is: "How can we get you to spend money on special drinks, pills, supplements, books?"

Believe your blood tests. Get them. Believe them. Forget sub-cults.

[brownbrown4]

Originally Posted by JohnnyVapor

I'm certainly not a vegan, but I am a weightlifter, and while there's a decent amount of talk in bodybuilding forums about lactic acid, it's not usually centered around long term effects, more around short term elimination(for increased endurance). I can't say I've had much negative health effects from it, but it might be a good idea to check with weightlifters and marathon runners about long term effects of lactic acid buildup.

I'm honestly not sure about the amount of lactic acid created by vaping PG, but in my personal experience I'd bet it's less than what would be created by a daily workout or run. I've not noticed any additional problems by working out and vaping, which should in theory give me a large amount of lactic acid buildup.

Again, this is just my experience as a heavy vaper and lifter. If you have concerns, you shoul talk to your doctor, and if you notice any strange symptoms, DEFINITELY talk to your doctor.

Your a lifter! Sweet.. me too. I only noticed more (than normal) lactic acid build up when i was doing high reps, when i started vaping.. but now its better.. i started cutting with at least 20% Vg. plus i figured the extra Glucose would help feed the muscle tissue.

although i wasn't just talking about lactic acid. there are quite a few more in the body, that all compund to do the same to PH

[brownbrown4]

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

Get your PH checked with every blood test. I do. I've been e-smoking daily for two years. NO CHANGE IN BLOOD PH. It's "normal". This acid-alkaline doctrine is a relatively new nutrition sub-cult. Don't take what I say next as gospel, but I read an entire book on this - and threw the book in the trash upon completion.

There are hundreds of nutrition sub-cults out there, all with "the answer". The question too often is: "How can we get you to spend money on special drinks, pills, supplements, books?"

Believe your blood tests. Get them. Believe them. Forget sub-cults.

I agree on the acid-alkaline being new. I just want people to explore possibilities. Many homeopathic meds and believes are now proven and mainstream.

And i dont know anyone that gets blood tests for some reason?
Unless they have something wrong with them of course..