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    Question Vaping and Throat Cancer?

    I'm still in complete shock from my phone call yesterday regarding my biopsy results. I have been diagnosed with Stage 1 Laryngeal Cancer (aka Squamos Cell Carcinoma/aka throat cancer). It's been pretty hard to cope with this news, being that I'm only 31 years old and smoked for about 13 years. I'm in the <1% category of throat cancer patients for my age. I quite smoking and went full time vaping in February 2013, so I've been off the stinkies for 9 months now. I know people that have smoked for decades and are still chugging along, healthy as an ox. GRRRR!!!!

    Doctors say the good news is my chances of a successful treatment is 97% due to my age and catching it so early.

    I think the most common first question my friends and family have been asking the last 24 hours is: "was it caused by smoking, or that vaping thing?" I just get so frustrated and throw my hands in the air and tell them how vaping is completely harmless, or at least when compared to smoking. I try to educate them about the ingredients, where they come from, and how they are already present and ingested in our everyday lives in the forms of toothpaste, make up, inhalers, etc.

    But then I start second guessing myself due to the lack of legitimate studies regarding what is truly in e-liquid and what the real side effects of vaping are. My doctors tell me my diagnosis is 100% due to smoking, but is it possible that vaping may have lended a hand in any way for those F'ing cells to form on my vocal chord? The ENT surgeon and my radiologist don't have an answer, so I'm coming here to see what the ECF opinions are.

    Maybe there is someone out there walking (or have walked) in my shoes who are just as confused, scared, and unsure of what to do regarding their vaping hobby. I couldn't find a thread on ECF relating to this, so hopefully someone other than me will find this helpful.


    1. Will vaping during radiotherapy stall or possibly hinder my results? I can't recall the source, but I recall reading a research article stipulating that nicotine use can actually accelerate the growth and spreading of cancerous cells.
    2. I currently vape 6mg nicotine. Would it be in my best interest to drop down to zero mg to be absolutely safe?
    3. Are there certain devices I should stay away from? IE - sub ohm mesh coils, cotton wicks, silica wicks, cartomizer tanks, etc. I can say that the mesh coils are somewhat irritating because they produce very warm vapor.
    4. Or should I just kick vaping completely and bow out of the hobby and pick up knitting or something to keep my hands busy while I anxiously await my remission?


    Please don't troll and say "OMG dude, your so stupid to even consider vaping with throat cancer." Go get diagnosed with cancer and see if you're not as worried sick and confused as I am about what to do.

    I look forward to reading your stories and opinions.
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    bro, don't have much useful input but my prayers are with you man, stay strong...

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    My brother on law passed away a short time ago due to throat cancer, he never vaped only smoked.

    He did all his radiation, and chemotherapy treatments and even had his throat removed and had a hole in his chest, I remember he tried eating some toast and it got lodged, so he took a hair dryer and out it in his mouth to force the toast down, it was gross yet funny if u knew him. He used to joke about sticking his head under water the longest.

    I'll miss him always, he was so kind and generous.

    He lived for 10 months after his diagnosis and 2 after the throat surgery.

    GL OP, I'm sure smoking was your cause, as cancer usually takes time to rear its ugly head, I'll suggest u google this.

    I hope u get your remission.
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    With the exception of the nicotine (and then, only if you Don't eat certain plants..) there is nothing in the eliquids that you are not generally exposed to every day!
    I don't see that vaping would have caused the issue. Even with your smoking past, that doesn't automatically mean that the tobacco use gave you cancer either, regardless what your ENT or other doctors said. It may have raised your chances, but they cannot prove it was tobacco use.

    Relax, vape as you see needed. Nicotine has been shown to accelerate cancer growth, but you're already at a low level. If you feel the need, lower it some more.

    I cannot say I've had a throat cancer, but I have had a cancer recently, all cleared up now. If one of my doctors would have said it was from my smoking past, I would have asked them to demonstrate the exact method I would have had to smoke the darned things to get it there........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bergster View Post
    [LIST=1][*]Will vaping during radiotherapy stall or possibly hinder my results? I can't recall the source, but I recall reading a research article stipulating that nicotine use can actually accelerate the growth and spreading of cancerous cells.
    [*]I currently vape 6mg nicotine. Would it be in my best interest to drop down to zero mg to be absolutely safe?
    As a recovering colon cancer patient who went through radiotherapy and chemo twice in 2010.

    I would not take anything that could possible reduce the effects of any treatments.

    During my treatment and afterwards I gave up cigs and it was easy to do with so many thoughts running though my mind.

    From the start of diagnose and treatment I was confused, scared.

    Hang in there your get through it.

    Have you tried to vape without nicotine it's not that bad. Increase the flavor might help.
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    It's scary Bergster, hard to put into words and my heart goes out to you. I had prostate cancer back in 2002 and with the latest technology was able to beat it. (fingers crossed) They used a procedure called brachytherapy in my case, which involved mapping out the prostate with scans, and inserting in my case 82 tiny radioactive seeds directly into the cancerous area. I went in early in the morning and out by noon time, no pain whatsoever. Nurse handed me an ice pack and I asked her what's that for. lol.

    So good luck friend hopefully they will get it all and you can go on. Personally I would think the smoking caused your cancer and not the vaping.

    Hang in there
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    Bergster I am so sorry about your diagnosis, but have faith that you can beat this. I've personally never been in your shoes, though I have lost several family members to other forms of cancer, mainly lung, though my father passed from prostate cancer. All were found much later than yours.

    As far as the nicotine goes, I'd say it's a definite yes that you need to quit it now. There is at least one preliminary study stating that although nicotine is not carcinogenic, it does promote pre-existing tumor growth. Since you're at 6 mg now the step down should be relatively easy I believe.

    In regard to the equipment, all I can say is we just don't know enough to say if one particular form is better than another. If you can step your nicotine down to zero and then give up vaping altogether, then I'd say go for it. However, keeping stress to a minimum also plays a part in the healing process, and if it's going to stress you out to try and quit altogether, then I would think that continuing to vape at 0 mg with no flavoring or at least the minimum amount of flavoring you can get away with might be a better option.

    Sending healing prayers your way.
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    I can't help you with your question but my family is no stranger to cancer. My grandpa died of lung cancer he smoked. My other grandpa had mouth cancer he chewed tobacco they cut his out and he has no visual scars and still chews tobacco. My grandma who has never smoked had throat cancer and had it removed she lives with a trake now but cancer is gone. I had a great aunt who died of Lung cancer and she never smoked and as far as I know was never exposed to second hand smoke. There are more and most of them didn't smoke or use tobacco.

    I don't know if you believe in prayer but I'll be praying for you. And the only other thing I can help you with is that if your going to be going through chemo get some Limu I know people who are drinking limu and it makes their chemo much easier on them.

    You will beat it just stay strong.
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    Sorry to hear your news, I wish you the best of luck.

    I just wanted to say, you certainly have scared me. I still smoke and vape but havent smoked for 3 days) being only 3 years younger than you, I never knew getting cancer from smoking at this age was possible.

    Could you tell us how you found out you had throat cancer? How much you smoked per day? and What made you get checked out?

    Good luck mate.......very happy for you that they caught it early

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    So sorry to hear this but the good news is that it is highly treatable.

    Just an FYI: Were you tested for HPV? If not, I would definitely ask your doctor about it.

    HPV and Head & Neck Cancer
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