Johnson Creek Juice Turning Green!

[Sun Vaporer]

I use Johnson Creek NON-PG and have ten 30ml bottles here --non of wich have any issues. And they are on my desk in the blazing sunlight of sunny Florida.

[Dorian_Gray]

Well,

I received my sampler about a week ago. All vials are still not green. I recycled 2 of the bottles because they are so convenient to take to work. I only did that yesterday.

Because of the the above comments, I rinsed them (including droppers) with 99% alcohol. We will see what developes (or not as the case may be)

[smoking gnu]

So some batch's allegedy got messed up. (1) They are going to report on the problem once they get the lab results back, (2) they are refunding anyone that had a problem, (3) the problem affected a very very small percentage their product, (4) noone reported getting sick from the problem--Does anyone think China manufactures would be on it and make good if this happened to their e-liquid?? Do you think you could even get a hold of anyone in China to see what happened?? So I think we should give them a break here. I use their product all the time and have ten 30 ml bottles here with no problems so it appears to be an isolated incident. They are making good faith inquiry and they are responding. What else could we all ask for???????????

This is what happens to Chinese manufactures that make people sick. Could be a bit harsh?

BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Chinese milk scam duo face death

[dc2k08]

Have not been able to access the forum for a few days like some others but I found a story this week and I figure it deserves to go in this thread.

A New Jersey councilman seeing the fountain in his city had frozen due to the harsh winter decided to add propylene glycol to the water to keep it running as we all know, PG acts as an antifreeze. Well guess what -The water turned green !

I think this lends weight to JC's theory that the their liquid must have travelled through a cold patch and that this is what caused the discolouration.

The wrong kind of ‘green’? - South Bergenite

[ed_bollix]

My sampler bottles, the ones I never used, were in an otter box to keep my cats away from them. A couple were green when I looked the other day. I emailed, was satisfied with the prompt answer and they taste fine... other then they are flavors I don't care for. I can't see the stuff once it's in the cart

[Jaaxx]

Anxiously awaiting the report from JC, but the fountain article got me thinking. Please follow this link and read the paragraph about DowFrost (Inhibited Propylene Glycol).

Solar Heat Transfer Fluid - Technical Note

When used in solar heating systems PG has to be chemically "inhibited" to keep it from reacting with stuff (mainly copper). Dow markets the inhibited PG as Dowfrost. Turns out if you accidently boil it, it produces black sludge. Also if the inhibitor fails it turns green.

I'm not suggesting that JC is using this stuff. I am suggesting that PG reacts with things (copper) naturally and has to be chemically altered to prevent it.

Wonder if anyone ever thows pennies in that fountain?

[dc2k08]

interesting find jaaxx. There would be a good chance that the pipes in the fountain are copper.

Another problem observed only with inhibited propylene glycol is the presence of particulate in the glycol, e.g., green in colour with Dowfrost HD, which is due to elements in the inhibitor/buffer package coming out of solution. This does not mean that the glycol has failed, but the particles may clog a strainer/filter if one is in the glycol-charged collector loop.

The last paragraph might explain why some people have reported seeing black specks in their carts:

This causes high solar collector temperatures on hot, sunny days and this, over a period of time, causes a breakdown in the glycol. It may become black (carbon particles) and/or very acidic. The black particles can accumulate at a bend or crevice in the collector loop and cause blockage of flow

[CalPilot89]

Does not explain why I have bottles of VG that were green as well..

[Jaaxx]

I'm no chemist, but from what I've read the glycols have similar properties.

[smoking gnu]

I have frozen a sample pack of JC NPG liquids defrosted them then frozen them again , none of them have turned green , but the vanilla ice cream has turned a dark red.