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About LinkBacksWell, I doubt that it is an issue with "something growing in it". PG anyway has strong antifungal and antibacterial properties. I think Jaaxx may be on the right lines.
Well, I doubt that it is an issue with "something growing in it". PG anyway has strong antifungal and antibacterial properties. I think Jaaxx may be on the right lines.
Weird, coincidence? Today I needed to replace an old cart. I have been real busy lately, and had a bunch of old, "wet", carts mixed in with new, dry carts. I pulled out what I thought was a new one, popped off the cap, and realized it was a used one. There was a little green flake on it. It was similar in color to these photos, but was a fairly solid flake. Maybe 2mm? small and thin. translucent. I picked it off and flicked it out the window, didn't really think much of it until now. Wow, haha...i just went thru a bunch of old carts I have and don't see anything green...
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I do think Jaaxx has hit the nail on the head. Oxidation of a flavoring agent, possibly tobacco absolute. We're so conditioned to think green means "spoiled". I'm with Papa. I'd vape it just to see if the taste had shifted.
Looking forward to Christian's reply.
I have never waited so long for a response from Christian. They may be troubleshooting..
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Originally Posted by TxTrouble
Hey TropicalBob. If you would like to pm your address I will be more than happy to mail you my bottle of green wild cherry. You can then test it out and let us know how it tasted.
Dlol, I wouldn't touch that stuff with a barge pole, good luck to the guinea pig who tries it.
Cal said it was the non pg that was affected if I remember correctly so there is no pg to kill germs.
As has been mentioned this doesn't seem to be a problem with any other brand of eliquid. Maybe preservatives are necessary or maybe it only happens with glycerine
JC claim to not use 'chemicals' I think; they're the only ones who make that claim and they are the ones to have been plagued with gloop, gunk and discolouring problems. It might be safer to stick with the 'chemicals' if they stop other ingredients having undesirable chemical reactions.
Kate, I mistyped there.. I am almost positive that one of the bottles that turned was PG.. I marked the bottles of PG so I could tell them apart as I had both versions of all 10 flavors. I did have one bottle of PG Vanilla Ice Cream left over that was not affected.. The one that was PG and turned on me was Original Tobacco..
I sent a follow up to Christian directing him to this thread so he could see the pictures.
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Whoever posted that a PG liquid is not likely to "go bad" is correct. The stuff should sit for a year or more without problems. And bad stuff won't grow in a virus-bacteria-fungi killing environment that PG liquid represents. There's also alcohol and nicotine in there, both of which sterilize and kill things. But additives might cause discoloration or taste shifts. When I said I'd try it, I meant I have NO FEAR of it.
The one with particulate buildup -- sludge -- is another story. That's not good at all. Very concerning. What is that stuff? That needs lab analysis.
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Tropical Bob, none of the bottles I have had any sludge nor were they any thicker than they were when I got them.. They are all still very clear.. But you are right.. That is troubling to say the least!
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On one hand, I'm kind of with TB with the "try it and see" approach, especially since I've been working through a JC sampler with no apparent ill effects for 3 months and have yet to see the color due to the dark bottles. However, I do think the flavoring agent (and I VERY strongly suspect (Christian where are you?) it's an organic flavoring agent) or whatnot needs to be identified and investigated. Spoilage is acceptable if we know in advance that it's going to spoil and can act accordingly. I would rather vape a pershable, natural product than an industrial byproduct... even if I know I have to handle it gently.
Another stupid parallel for anyone who panics easily. Avocados turn black within minutes after cutting without being "treated" with citric acid (lemon), but are still perfectly edible for days. Black guacamole? Gross! But it's not gonna kill you.
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