Vaping is not a complete substitute for tobacco smoking

[yvilla]

Are you sure you're not thinking of degrees C rather than F Yvilla?

Yes, I'm sure.

[Kate]

Ok, sorry. It just doesn't sound right to me. My I-Inhale vaporiser keeps a steady temperature of 190 degrees C apparently for vaporising herbs and tobacco.

I'm not good with temperature measurements though.

[TropicalBob]

I'm in my first week of vaping without smoking any tobacco and I certainly notice that while vaping is satisfying enough there is indeed a difference in the "impact" as compared with smoking an analog cigarette. It's a million times closer to the "real thing" than gum or patches, but the scientist in me wonders what the missing element is.

I studied molecular biology at the University of Texas and am quite encouraged to see some biochem savvy folks here on this forum! When I first read about the MAOI component to smoking it was an "aha" moment. It explains so much why NRP products like nicorette and the patch are largely ineffective for quitting smoking.

One thing I am concerned about with vaping is whether I am putting significantly more amounts of nicotine in my body than I do when I smoke "analogs" in order to get the same CNS effects. If indeed small amounts of MAOI's in cigarettes potentiate the nicotine, then the safety concerns about MAOI's may be more than offset by having less nicotine in the body.

In essence I can see how a balanced MAOI/nicotine mix is "smart" in the sense that pharamceutical R&D uses it to mean targeted to a specific organ or tissue - the CNS in this case. The MAOI "activates" the nicotine so that much less is needed. That acts to limit the well known negative side effects of nicotine - primarily on the circulatory system and heart. Food for thought.

A huge welcome to the forum. You are so right! Please continue to contribute to our knowledge base here. I had my own aha moment reading the same article. It's true. It's true. It's true! It explains why e-cigs (and all NRT products) don't "cut it" for me. Habit? E-smoking helps. Addiction? This is no substitute for a tobacco cigarette.

[yvilla]

Ok, sorry. It just doesn't sound right to me. My I-Inhale vaporiser keeps a steady temperature of 190 degrees C apparently for vaporising herbs and tobacco.

I'm not good with temperature measurements though.

Well if you look at Madog's and Jaaxx's measurements, in the two ECF threads I linked to, the temperatures are at the lower end of the range I wrote. I upped it from their measurements, because they were not reaching all the way down into the nichrome wire, just measuring the top part of the atomizers.

[yvilla]

Ok, sorry. It just doesn't sound right to me. My I-Inhale vaporiser keeps a steady temperature of 190 degrees C apparently for vaporising herbs and tobacco.

I'm not good with temperature measurements though.

Another thought, Kate. Isn't the higher temperature of your I-Inhale device one of the things that is giving you trouble with the flavor with liquids? I thought I saw that in your comments on E-Cig Test forum.

[Kate]

Yes, the temperature has been an issue, it seems that flavours vaporise faster than the propylene glycol.

[Kate]

Hi Cymri, you might find this thread of interest, apparently there is harmine in passion flower - Passion flower, has Harmine in it

[rejoice]

Kate, what is Harmine? In your post you ask the question. Would it help to dose with harmine?

[Kate]

It's a bit technical for me Rejoice but it has something to do with dopamine receptors in our brains. I think nicotine prompts the production of dopamine which makes us feel good and then levels reduce but harmine somehow makes the effects last longer or make them more intense, I'm not sure. It's probably one of the things we miss when we stop using tobacco and that's why vaping isn't as satisfying for some people.

I might have the details wrong but you can find out more here:
Harmine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[rejoice]

I read the article and it seems that harmine is in tobacco,passion flower,passion fruit. So do you think that taking some passion flower may help? I don't want to take any prescription drugs for this. Maybe a litle passion flower?