Vaping is making me sick

[JollyRogers]

Wife and I had this discussion last night. I have some 30mg m/boro and 18mg Coffee both VG. I am using the 30 and only take 3-5 "drags" when I vape. Guess what, I am getting too much nicotine. She switched to the 18 and it allows her to vape more without getting that HUGE nicotine rush when she does. I ordered some 24mg (though its PG) mistakenly... so probably will make a trip down to Richmond to pick up some lower mg stuff and maybe some 0 to cut this with. Also, notice you are in VA, check out nosmokeva in richmond if anywhere close. Jimi sells VG juice.

[olderthandirt]

For anyone pondering the amount of nicotine they may be getting using an e-cig, here are some good articles to help you either suss things out or, at least introduce you to some of the immense amount information available on the forum.

How efficient are e-cigarettes at nicotine delivery?

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...s-analogs.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...entist-do.html

And for those with the technical ability to follow it
How much nicotine is destroyed during vaping ?

[TropicalBob]

Madame Psychosis is on-target here. Very few people have any true allergic reactions to PG, or VG for that matter. But both are humectants. The areas they coat will release moisture to the air if the air is drier than the mouth interior. That's often the case, but is absolutely the worst in winter, with cold, dry air being sucked in.

Your nose might crack and bleed, your skin itches, your lungs seem to gasp for air. And dry air warmed up is just as bad. Your body is radiating its moisture! Dry air sucks. It's not cold temperatures that cause germs to bring you down; it's low humidity cracking the areas where germs enter - throat and nose.

Solution: Drink lots of water, Gatorade or something non-caffeinated. You won't find some magic e-liquid that solves the problem. Once you begin drying out, you will get headaches and muscle cramps. Athletes know this well.

Present conditions in the U.S. are turning us into human jerky! Stay hydrated.

[Illuminate]

Very few people have any true allergic reactions to PG, or VG for that matter.

Thats a Bold Statement Bob.

[Madame Psychosis]

Thats a Bold Statement Bob.

I think TropicalBob's making a safe statement. The best data I can find on the incidence of any type of PG sensitivity in the literature on a very cursory search comes from this very large meta-analysis:

In the several publications reviewed in this article, propylene glycol (PG; 1,2-propylene glycol) is described as a very weak contact sensitizer, if at all. However, particular exposures to PG-containing products might be associated with an elevated risk of sensitization. To identify such exposures, we analysed patch test data of 45 138 patients who have been tested with 20% PG in water between 1992 and 2002. Out of these, 1044 patients (2.3%) tested positively, 1083 showed a doubtful, follicular or erythematous reaction (2.4%) and 271 explicit irritant reactions (0.6%). This profile of patch test reactions is indicative of a slightly irritant preparation, and thus, many of the 'weak positive' reactions must probably be interpreted as false positive. No private or occupational exposures associated with an increased risk of PG sensitization were identified, except for lower leg dermatitis. Therefore, according to our patch test data, PG seems to exhibit very low sensitization potential, and the risk for sensitization to PG on uncompromised skin seems to be very low.

True allergies are actually a small subgroup of those and indeed are even rarer. This abstract, though I'll dig up the full text when I get on Medline, defines four subgroups of PG intolerance/sensitivity:

(a) irritant contact dermatitis, (b) allergic contact dermatitis, (c) non-immunologic contact urticaria, and (d) subjective or sensory irritation.

(urticaria = hives)

[TropicalBob]

Thats a Bold Statement Bob.

Not bold at all. Based on solid research over many decades.

[Kate51]

It's always an amazement to me how people who have been smoking chemical soup cigarettes for years suddenly become "sensitive" to e-cig juices!!! THINK ABOUT IT.
Your body is finally able to gather and expel chemicals that are deposited throughout every tissue in your body, and you complain of a headache? Wow. Most people's "headaches" are usually just over-worked facial muscles, you are drawing too hard and too often.
There are over 4000 known used chemicals to treat inferior tobacco to give you a smoker's delight akin to a free-basing nicotine hit. And 24mg/ml of juice makes you sick?
Really, it's not likely you will ever get an overdose of nicotine unless you're drinking it straight out of the bottle. Find a density that keeps that Devil away, and never go higher than you need. And put the darn PV down once in awhile. RELAX, and trust what you're trying to do is right. It's been "Right" for thousands of people here.
VG and PG sensitivity? That's something that will present itself after a month or so of over-vaping. I did develop an aversion to PG myself, it's very unpleasant and does get worse cummulatively. Switch to VG, not quite so drying. DRINK WATER, Gator-aide, cranberry juices, green tea, increase your veggies and whole grains, use anti-oxident foods and drinks to help your poor body rid itself of poisons. AND DO GET SOME exercise. Walking and breathing with some vigor will help your body recover faster than you ever imagined. So get up out of that chair!!
Long, slow, easy draws from your PV will give you the best vapor production, and your nicotine. Your headache may be from trying to suck Carbon Dioxide out of a tailpipe (calm yourself down, this isn't going to hurt a bit!) Over-vaping with a higher Nic density will give you a headache. Just slow down your cadence a bit.
Give your body a couple months to come to terms with withdrawal symptoms. It will happen. The most important thing is to realize you are in a potentially much safer place, finally.....there are three ingredients to worry about, nicotine, VG or PG, and and a well performing PV. THIS IS YOUR NEW REALITY. The hand-to-mouth habit is the hardest part of all this to lose. But that will happen, also, just give yourself some time. Lately I've been forgetting where I put mine down. That's a GOOD thing!
Now the thing is to deal with dead batteries, dry or dying atomizers, and finding a suitable strength juice to keep your comfort zone. DO NOT PANIC, but do be prepared with replacement parts, a nice juice stash. It's not like you can run to a gas station for a fix quick. This vaping thing requires some planning and forethought. Cigarette smoking is a death sentence. Nicotine does not kill, smoke does. And it is no longer an option if an e-cig isn't working for you. So the only thing left is BIG PHARMA or COLD TURKEY. Your choice. Whichever choice you make will not be easy to pull off, unfortuately...it takes time, and you getting a grip on your over-use of the Panic Button.
Good luck to you!

[inicapem]

My guess is dehydration. Drink tons of water, not gatorade (sugar juice), just lots and lots of water.

[Kate51]

Gatorade is more than sugar juice, it's an electrolyte supplement. Get to "G2", half the calories, same electrolyte formula. Any time you increase fluids you must replace needed vitamins and minerals. Or use "Pediacare", another electrolyte supplement formulated for kids.

[inicapem]

Anything with sweetners will dehydrate you. Our bodies get the proper amount of electolytes from a balanced diet. If you feel you must drink something with "added" electrolytes use smart water - no sweeteners either artificial or natural.