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    Ok, I'm new to vaping. I smoke a pack to a pack and a half of Marlboro Lights a day. My goal was to quick cigarettes all together and just vape. I have started with the blu to keep the testing cost down. Here is my problem. After about a day on the blu medium carts, I started getting headaches and my neck began to ache like crazy. At first I thought it may be too much nicotine and then began to wonder if it was the PG. I don't believe I am over vaping. I am using the blu like a standard cigarette. 10 to 15 drags and I put it down. I have ordered the Johnson Creek low PG smoke juice and I like it. HOWEVER, I am still getting monster headaches. Their sample pack comes in 24 mg of nicotine only. I also cut it in several different methods, but that didn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations to help me out.

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    Have you tried VG?

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    It may be a more mechanical problem. I got headaches and a tiny bit of neck strain my first week most likely because I was smoking the 510 like a crack pipe and probably because I was trying very hard to get a "analog" hit. I'm also still going through withdrawals (24mg just doesn't seem to be doing it for me), and that makes life suck a little, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wannavaap View Post
    Ok, I'm new to vaping. I smoke a pack to a pack and a half of Marlboro Lights a day. My goal was to quick cigarettes all together and just vape. I have started with the blu to keep the testing cost down. Here is my problem. After about a day on the blu medium carts, I started getting headaches and my neck began to ache like crazy. At first I thought it may be too much nicotine and then began to wonder if it was the PG. I don't believe I am over vaping. I am using the blu like a standard cigarette. 10 to 15 drags and I put it down. I have ordered the Johnson Creek low PG smoke juice and I like it. HOWEVER, I am still getting monster headaches. Their sample pack comes in 24 mg of nicotine only. I also cut it in several different methods, but that didn't work. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations to help me out.
    You may be having an adverse reaction to the PG... You should switch to 100% usp VG... and I would recommend... the usual conversion is 8-10 drags to one cigarette and instead of 24mg, 18mg, or 11mg.. try ordering some 6 or 8mgm maybe 11. These are more comparable to a marlboro light... headaches are the first sign of high nic concentration in the system. If you start having constant diarrea, uncontrollable esophigial philangea(i), dizziness, and/or nausea consult a doctor. Low concentrations of nicotine stimulate concentration and mental well being.. but high concentrations begin to act like poison on the body.
    Just a little info on nic itself. Every cig is est. to have .08 mg of nic. 20 cigs per pack rank in at 16mg. Every pack has this without regard to flavor strength. Light, ultra lite, full flavor... no difference as pertaining to nic level just flavor. Most start vaping at higher nic levels as a reward to deter them from reverting to the analog.. I always recommend to play around in the 8mg to 18 mg area rather than automatically jump to 24 and above.
    Just remember there is a learning curve to this.. once you find the perfect moderation for you... I am sure you will truly enjoy vaping and leave those coffin nails behind.

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    P.S. I forgot to mention.. the neck thing with the headache is also a tale that you are trying to drag on this apparatus just like a cig. Can't do that.... It is better while vaping to take slow, evenly pressured drags.... That is don't enhale too strongly using a lot of pressure and try to be moderate. I usually try to equally drag for four seconds each time .. nice and slow with an even pull. Sometimes.. If I really need that fix.. I will do what is called a primer puff.. this is simply a quick three pulls to get the cart primed followed by a long steady five or six second drag. This just gets me back from being a little edgy if I was away from my vape too long..LOL
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    The reduced PG formulas are a good angle, even pure VG formula would be worth a try.

    I had pretty bad headaches at first, I think it was from the nicotine and the fact that I was constantly fiddling around with my PV trying to use it right, so I was vaping more than I should have been. It also could have been a withdrawl symptom from cigarettes. There are a TON of other chemicals and additives in tobacco cigarettes that you are no longer consuming, so there are likely some side effects fnow that your body is no longer getting those.

    Try lowering the nic, try and take it easy with the vaping, take 10 puffs, sit it down for 15 mins.

    It would also suggest to contact your doctor to let him/her know what you are doing, and your concerns. They may be able to give you an idea if PG is/could be the cause.

    What I did to deal with my headaches, was to take a couple of tylenol. That helped me out a bunch, and eventually I stopped getting any headaches at all.

    As for nicotine levels, cutting that 24 down with some 0-nic of the same flavor would stretch the juice out more, without losing any flavor.

    Worst case, hang onto that stronger juice for a later day, and look into getting some 8-12mg liquid. If necessary, look into getting some snus to keep you off the analogs while you wait for some lower nic juice to arrive.

    Best of luck, and don't forget about contacting your doctor.

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    Headaches for me are a common sign of mild dehydration. Muscle aches can also come with the beginning of dehydration. PG (and VG to some extent I've found) is drying/dehydrating. Drink a ton more water/Gatorade/whatever noncaffeinated and see how you feel.

    I've been pacifier vaping to avoid the smokes during these first couple months of tapering/quitting, so I've been doing a lot more deep breaths to vape than I would otherwise. That will dry up your mouth and dehydrate you.

    Nicotine's also a vasoconstrictor, which can worsen headaches, but that would only be likely if your body is getting more nicotine than it's used to, and you'd probably have anxiety and a racing heart then too.

    Many of us got various symptoms when we started vaping. It's hard to sort out whether it's due to stopping smoking, nicotine excess (if we're consuming more), nicotine withdrawal (if we're consuming less), dehydration, or actual PG intolerance. But not all symptoms are PG intolerance.

    Hope your headache goes away.

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    Headaches could be from tobacco withdrawal too. But I also suggest going with VG to see if that helps.
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    I had a migraine the first couple of days that I quit and just contributed it to cigarette withdrawals. They eventually went away with the help of Tylenol. I don't think it was from the juice type as I was vaping and smoking for at least a month before I quit and didn't have any headaches.
    To be sure though, I eventually switched over to Intellecig EcoPure Rich in 30mg and I only experience true vaping pleasure. I will not go back to any type of DEKANG liquids anymore as they just taste foul to me. I don't trust PG either no matter what anyone has to say about how safe it is. It may be but I just don't have good throat hits with it or vapor and like I said it all just tastes nasty. Just my take. But no matter what you choose, an e-cig is the way to quit as it has been 64 days for me. Good Luck, Phil
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    if you smoked a 1&1/2 packs a day and have switched to LOW juice, you are probably getting your headaches from nicotine withdrawal. Because you were a heavy smoker, I highly doubt your problems stem from too much nicotine. You would probably benefit from a higher dose liquid to start with. PG allergies are possible, but unlikely as they are very rare. I smoked a pack a day and started with 24mg and could tell I was getting less nic. than I was used to (I now use 12mg and plan on going to 0).
    Another thing to consider, is that the lack of chemicals other than nicotine are causing your symptoms. I had a friend who switched from marlbs to American Spirt cigs to avoid chemical additives and she suffered headaches and insomnia from chemical withdrawal.
    I would suggest trying a higher dose to keep you away from those tempting smokes and that you stick with it. After smoking for 10+ plus years, I didn't think I'd be able to quit but I've been smoke free since Aug ! Good luck!
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    I smoked 1-2 packs a day and found that 18-24 mg was good for me. There is some trial and error with each individuaL regarding the proper nicotine level when your first starting out. I would recommend emailing blu or whoever about sending you a sampler type package with different strengths so you can see what works best with your body. There is also some technique and adjusting as to how you're vaping. Long, slow, relaxed drags work best for me. Be gentle. You should not be dragging on your PV the same way you would on a cig. I do not believe a headache and neck cramps alone is cause to worry about allergy to PG. If you had an allergic reaction you would have other symptoms such as an extremely sore throat and uncontrollable coughing and discomfort in the lungs I think. I would try some different nic levels and relax my vaping style if I were you. You should tell Blu about your issue and see if they would help you out with a discount or something on a sampler pack for different nic lvls.

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