Quitting smoking and depression

[hittman]

Getsnus is out of some of the stuff and have a 1-2 week wait time. Do you think it would be worth the wait or should I order from one of the other sites you mentioned before?

[olderthandirt]

Getsnus is out of some of the stuff and have a 1-2 week wait time. Do you think it would be worth the wait or should I order from one of the other sites you mentioned before?

Try the General Wintergreen instead of the Thunder Frosted. Close to flavor, same nic, white portion instead of a mini, and it's my absolute favorite

[hittman]

Well, I ordered the general wintergreen like you suggested along with the general mini mints, and ettan original. I don't know how long it will take in shipping but I can't wait to try them.

[AlexTM]

Should you ever get yourself accidentally loose snus, it can easily be wrapped in a cut-up teabag and used like a potion.

[TWISTED VICTOR]

I don't really want to get addicted to these...

Maybe you shouldn't look at it as an addiction. I see your point and understand why you would feel this way, not long ago I did, too. Now I know that, to be the fully functioning human I was before I quit the smokes, I need something to assist my brain chemistry. Cigarettes were a form of self-medication that supplied the maoi's I needed to keep everything in balance, my body couldn't do it alone, nor ever will. Some are born this way, some become this way through trauma and some become dependant through chemical abuse (including tobacco). Not all smokers fall into this catagory, but many do. If this is the case, there's no changing it, we just have to deal with it. That might include the use of psychiatric drugs, but if the smokes work, so should another form of tobacco. Burning tobacco is the killer. Snus of the Swedish variety has been studied and no adverse effects to health found. Some might look at it as trading off in tobacco addiction, for me it's survival without the side effects of Big Pharma. If it were just an addiction, I would have made it with my PV.

However, I have to wonder if a higher nic level would help me past the cravings too.

E-liquid doesn't contain the alkaloids found in tobacco. Low nicotine contributes to craving, insomnia and a feeling of too much oxygen, but not much in the way of fuzzy thinking and definitely not continued depression. The best way to test this is boost your level and stay there for a week or 2 (no smokes allowed). If the craving goes away at first, but returns or never goes away, you need more than the stripped down nic molecule. Same applies if the fuzzy thinking or loss of mental focus, including depression continues or comes back.
I followed the example set by OTD. He started vaping long before I did, but was never able to shake 1 or 2 smokes a week and was still mentally struggling like a greased cat trying to crawl out of a hole in the ice. The snus put him back together and the smokes went away. He's still kinda nutty, but I think that's just him .

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Hittman: You've been given good advice, and this is about the last bastion of sanity on this forum where posters rarely, rarely scream at each other. (An occasional happy bunny thumps through to spread the gospel of e-smoking being the end-all to every smoker's needs, but, for the most part, you read realists here. We sometimes shoot happy bunnies.)

....ain't it the truth.......... Here's where the "Red Badge of Courage" has been fought for and won .

[hittman]

Twisted, I think you are right. I did quit smoking completely and only vaped for 8-9 weeks but I never really felt satisfied even after chain vaping for 10-15 minutes. I used one snus yesterday and two today and could feel my old level of alertness returning to me and had no cravings today. I do believe I need something else besides the nicotine. The e-cigs are good and carry me through most of the day but I never got the feeling that I did like when I used the snus. I started this thread because I had started smoking one or two every day or so after not having smoked for the 8-9 weeks. I was feeling depressed. I think part of it was that I felt like I had failed by smoking again but I think that most of it was from me missing the maoi's or something. I did not realize it until I used the snus but I had become less alert or something over time from not getting those chemicals.

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Hi, Hitman. Check out Alex's poll and vote, if you haven't http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...-new-post.html There's also a repost of OTD's that I made that you may find helpful. Hang in there, buddy. It surely does get better .

[hittman]

Thanks Twisted! You know, I might have said this before but I thought I had the smoking beast defeated but it was just resting waiting to come back. This is harder than I thought it would ever be but thanks to you, OTD, TB, and many others here that help others like myself, it is a little easier. I will go check out the link you posted for me.