Does vaping cause phlegm?

[TropicalBob]

Not coughing after quitting is a bonus. But vaping is different and you will eventually develop production of a clear phlegm, if you stick with this a year or more.

[HzG8rGrl]

YES. It does. And it worsens the longer a person e-smokes. New research, not yet released, is showing phlegm might be the most significant danger of e-smoking. And it results from both PG and VG. No difference.

A film is apparently building in veteran e-smokers' lungs, causing an increased phlegm secretion. I'm experiencing it, as are others in tests lasting longer than a year. It's a serious concern and a nicotine carrier other than PG or VG is being sought.

Any cursory reading of PG's effects will show that it is an irritant. That's proving to be the case when inhaled 300 or more times a day by e-smokers. We were guinea pigs, and now some results are becoming known.

Well that Sucks. I know I have not successfully wished the sticky yuk away. So is it smokers phlegm versus pg/vg phlegm? Why do we have the decrease to begin with?

[Doug_Dread]

Well that Sucks. I know I have not successfully wished the sticky yuk away. So is it smokers phlegm versus pg/vg phlegm? Why do we have the decrease to begin with?

My theory is that the thick, heavy tar from smoking lines the interior of the lungs, thus inhibiting oxygen transfer and causing shortness of breath. Vaping liquid condenses on the tar, mixes with it and loosens it, hence the much larger than normal amounts of yellow/brown phlegm coughed up in the first few weeks of vaping.

Once the tar has mostly gone, we feel great and experience much better breathing, clear sinuses and generally feel much better off.

Then the vaping liquids start to form their own deposits on the now clear surfaces, causing a much milder shortness of breath. In the short to medium term, the lungs seem to be able to cope with this and start to push out small amounts of a thin, clear e-phlegm. The longer term effects are still largely unknown although my emphysema is giving some warning signs and suggesting I proceed with caution.

[HzG8rGrl]

Well-----Pooh, to put it lightly.

[MissVapor]

YES. It does. And it worsens the longer a person e-smokes. New research, not yet released, is showing phlegm might be the most significant danger of e-smoking. And it results from both PG and VG. No difference.

A film is apparently building in veteran e-smokers' lungs, causing an increased phlegm secretion. I'm experiencing it, as are others in tests lasting longer than a year. It's a serious concern and a nicotine carrier other than PG or VG is being sought.

Any cursory reading of PG's effects will show that it is an irritant. That's proving to be the case when inhaled 300 or more times a day by e-smokers. We were guinea pigs, and now some results are becoming known.

Tropical Bob, that is very good to know..I have noticed some phlemn from VG almost instantly after I start vaping.. How do you know there is a film in esmokers lungs and not just in the throat? What kind of tests were performed? Where can I find out more info and results? I've been vaping for almots a year now and so Im concerned.

[doots]

I notiice very little phlegm with PG and almost instantly a lot with VG and that is why I have quit using VG. Guess its better than cigs but long term will tell the tale...

[TropicalBob]

MissVapor: As soon as the research results can be released, they will be. I was only notified of some preliminary results over the weekend (I still stay in touch with a number of researchers on e-smoking as a result of a story I did and had published in October 2008). I wish I could spell it out, but I was asked not to. As soon as I can ...

[athlon14]

YES. It does. And it worsens the longer a person e-smokes. New research, not yet released, is showing phlegm might be the most significant danger of e-smoking. And it results from both PG and VG. No difference.

A film is apparently building in veteran e-smokers' lungs, causing an increased phlegm secretion. I'm experiencing it, as are others in tests lasting longer than a year. It's a serious concern and a nicotine carrier other than PG or VG is being sought.

Any cursory reading of PG's effects will show that it is an irritant. That's proving to be the case when inhaled 300 or more times a day by e-smokers. We were guinea pigs, and now some results are becoming known.

I have this problem,but very minor. 8 months in

[HzG8rGrl]

Tropical Bob--I hope you do not mind I posted these findings in another forum and stated it was your post from another forum. Just thought I should let you know as vapers in other communities (forums) should benefit from your knowledge. If I should refrain from doing so again in the future please advise me of this. Thanks again for your knowledge and passing it forward.

[Ladycats]

I have this problem,but very minor. 8 months in

Yep, me too .. 1 year in .... but, from the very beginning I didn't think this was _totally_ safe, just safer than cigarettes ...so I'll continue to happily vape away until I'm told otherwise