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Does vaping cause phlegm? in Health and Medical Issues; Originally Posted by Caesarea After 48 years' heavy smoking I don't expect to see a cilia renaissance any time soon... ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesarea View Post
    After 48 years' heavy smoking I don't expect to see a cilia renaissance any time soon...

    46 years here, but it's been known to happen, mostly at a slower rate.
    LOVE your wording...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katmar View Post
    46 years here, but it's been known to happen, mostly at a slower rate.
    LOVE your wording...lol

    Your research shows there is an afterlife for cilia? Well I'm blessed!
    But this is no drip drip - it's a fast-running torrent...

    [Wording subject to stream of consciousness and snot-control.]


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    Seven months in and my lungs are clear but my throat is not. (Please stop me from typing "is snot." Thank you.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leita View Post
    Seven months in and my lungs are clear but my throat is not. (Please stop me from typing "is snot." Thank you.)
    Maybe like me you don't inhale the vapour that deeply?

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    Notice I did not say the vapour is not inhaled....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caesarea View Post
    Maybe like me you don't inhale the vapour that deeply?

    C.


    Notice I did not say the vapour is not inhaled....
    My in-house scientist (aka the male unit I am legally familied with) watches me and reports that I'm a half-and-halfer. Sometimes the vapor comes out of my nose, and sometimes it comes out my mouth.

    Mornings bring me sniffles but we live in a 100-yr. old home and the dust might be causing this. Either that or the spooge of ghosts of past Freemasons who used this place as their lodge back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leita View Post
    My in-house scientist (aka the male unit I am legally familied with) watches me and reports that I'm a half-and-halfer. Sometimes the vapor comes out of my nose, and sometimes it comes out my mouth.

    Mornings bring me sniffles but we live in a 100-yr. old home and the dust might be causing this. Either that or the spooge of ghosts of past Freemasons who used this place as their lodge back in the day.
    I would vote on the freemasons....seems live everyone had "the vapors" back then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leita View Post
    My in-house scientist (aka the male unit I am legally familied with) watches me and reports that I'm a half-and-halfer. Sometimes the vapor comes out of my nose, and sometimes it comes out my mouth.

    Mornings bring me sniffles but we live in a 100-yr. old home and the dust might be causing this. Either that or the spooge of ghosts of past Freemasons who used this place as their lodge back in the day.
    Gosh - ectoplasm!
    Yes old houses are full of chemical history - my apartment dates back to 1880, the days when they used arsenic based paint!

    Best of luck with the sniffles Leita!

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    I'm so glad AaronCooper started this thread, because after 40 years of smoking I never did get that cough after quitting smoking, but after about 3 months of vaping I notice an almost continuous need to clear my throat, which I don't remember ever happening when I smoked.

    Also, I seemed fine for a couple of months of vaping, but then a real shortness of breath started and has remained, which I can't explain. I notice it particularly when climbing stairs.

    I use a lot of VG and not so much PG (just what's in purchased juices) as I make a lot of my own juice without PG or nicotine.

    I would so welcome a substance 'like' PG or VG we could use that would be safe and not cause problems. Something that would make vaping no more harmful than inhaling the steam from a humidifier. But I assume we need a thicker base in our juices than water.

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    Most chemical data sheets on PG show it to be fairly benign but not so the flavouring chemicals which vary from benign, through irritant and harmful, to actually toxic. Maybe this is where the problem lies.

    I started vaping with a Virginia 24mg liquid and after the first few weeks of coughing up the smoking residue, started clearing up really well and had practically zero phlegm. Then I got hooked on RY4 and have vaped 80ml's from Christmas to now. I no longer have that wonderfully clear feeling, I wake up at night short of breath and am increasingly coughing up phlegm in the mornings. Plus, the phlegm started out clear and light but is getting thicker and turning brown again, much like analog phlegm.

    I googled the components listed on the label of my RY4 bottle, which someone said appeared on all flavours, with their data sheet safety ratings, in my post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...tml#post896410

    Put them all together and there could be the basis for a health problem, even if PG is harmless.

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    I am really scared after reading about the "inhaling of artificial flavors" of the "popcorn lung issue" and how people working in factories have to have a lung transplant just after being exposed to these artificial flavorings in just under 3-4 years that I don't want to take the chance anymore.. Some of the symptoms of these people is : shortness of breath, nigh sweats, loss of memory, and skin pealing.

    None of us know what the long term effects even if flavorings are absent or minimal. It might be from flavoring or/and VG/PG...

    I smoked for 10 yrs and NEVER had any symptoms from it, but after a year of vaping I have experienced a wide range of symptoms and think for now Im going to just quit vaping..

    To each their own but proceed with caution...

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