What is worse? Vaping, analogs, or Obama stimulus package?

[Oklahoma]

Which one will impact us first and which will be the worst for us?

[Frankie]

I think this has been posted in a wrong section. It belongs here: OUTSIDE! - e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

[taz3cat]

Obama stimulus package,is one big give away. I dosn't pay to pay you bills and work hard for what you get. Lie, cheat, lay on your buns and get it all freeee, I said FREEEE.


Bad for use workers health. Worse than analogs, and for sure worse than Personal Vaporizers.

[skex]

Originally Posted by taz3cat

Obama stimulus package,is one big give away. I dosn't pay to pay you bills and work hard for what you get. Lie, cheat, lay on your buns and get it all freeee, I said FREEEE.


Bad for use workers health. Worse than analogs, and for sure worse than Personal Vaporizers.

Where exactly do you get any of this nonsense?

The stimulus package has nothing to do with people who lied cheated or laid about. It's about reinvesting in the infrastructure of this country to undue some of the damage that 30 years of republican irresponsiblity has brought about.

You know maintinence on bridges (so they don't collapse) upgrades to roadways so we can drive to our jobs upgrades to our electrical grid so it can more efficiently route power where we need it and not needlessly waste capacity.

We tried it your way for 30 years and we've ended up wtih the worst economic disaster since the last time we tried it the free marketeer way.

Reagan and Bush 1 ran the debt into the stratosphere. Before Reagan the National debt was a couple hundred billion (that was after 2 world wars and multiple police actions including all the bilions wasted in Vietnam) Ronnei raygun took that to 3 trillion Clinton managed to pay it down a bit and then Shrub and his Republican cronnies took that and drove it to around 10 trillion.

So Republicans and can just shut the frack up about spending you have no credibility.

[TropicalBob]

This entire post is misplaced. This kind of off-topic discussion is suited only in Outside. It messes up one of the best sections of the forum -- and even posting this raises this to the top of the section. Ugh.

If you're reading, moderators, move this entire thread to Outside.

[skullsoup432]

This is nonsense, comparing these three is totally wrong OKLAHOMA. I've made statements about the gov't but never about anyone politician.

I think you owe the members an apology. I may be wrong, if am I will apologize. What you did is nonsense.

[taz3cat]

I am not a Republican and did not insult President Obama personally, the end of conversation.

[Cellmeister]

You Better Check What Juice Your Putting In Your Cart's...... It may be bad.

[chokmah]

Well I would say analogs are the worst. I personally didnt ask for my husband to get stage 4 lung cancer and now have to depend on assistance from the govenment so I am thankful its there. I will say I did vote for Obama and will give him the respect earned. If in 4 years things are the same or worse then I will vote again for who I think may help all the people of the US. I am an independant and voted for Bush and I apologize to all the people for a poor choice in the voting booth. I am human and make mistakes, luckily I try to learn from them and not repeat those mistakes.

[CamelCrush]

Originally Posted by skex

Where exactly do you get any of this nonsense?

The stimulus package has nothing to do with people who lied cheated or laid about. It's about reinvesting in the infrastructure of this country to undue some of the damage that 30 years of republican irresponsiblity has brought about.

You know maintinence on bridges (so they don't collapse) upgrades to roadways so we can drive to our jobs upgrades to our electrical grid so it can more efficiently route power where we need it and not needlessly waste capacity.

We tried it your way for 30 years and we've ended up wtih the worst economic disaster since the last time we tried it the free marketeer way.

Reagan and Bush 1 ran the debt into the stratosphere. Before Reagan the National debt was a couple hundred billion (that was after 2 world wars and multiple police actions including all the bilions wasted in Vietnam) Ronnei raygun took that to 3 trillion Clinton managed to pay it down a bit and then Shrub and his Republican cronnies took that and drove it to around 10 trillion.

So Republicans and can just shut the frack up about spending you have no credibility.

First of all, the % of the spending bill that actually goes to rebuild our infrastructure is about 30 billion or less than 5% so that's really not a valid argument. They could have put several hundred billion into really rebuilding our roads and bridges but that would have pulled too much money away from Pelosi and others pet projects (read pork).

Second, you really have no leg to stand on when you site Republican spending. Sure, it's been bad the last eight years but if you look historically, your party has far outspent the right with a high degree of consistency. Clinton was the exception and I was behind him but this new guy thinks money just grows on trees. The budget + spendulus + all the other crap getting rammed through right now amounts to the largest spending spree ever in the history of mankind. Obama's deficit will be more than 3 times larger than any other in history of the world.

If you think tearing down the most successful people in this country will help the little guy one iota, then I seriously question your intellect. Who do you think provides jobs and buys new houses and cars and employees thousands of people in this country. It's not the guys at the bottom. Sure they need help, guidance and support, but not handouts.

I've gotten off on a rant here....I thought I came in here to read about vaping?