Polyethylene Glycol 400

[MonsterTruck]

Sedansa decided to use PEG 400 (Polyethylene Glycol 400) instead of PG in the new catridges. This topic will allow us to share information on that new product replacing PG.

Here is my first research :

http://www.sciencelab.com/xMSDS-Poly...ol_400-9926620

[Alain_JANTY]

Below information from wikipedia

PEG 400 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[taz3cat]

Sedansa, must of found it was cheaper, I would not purchase any of their carts or juice.

PG is a better choice, more is know about it. Monkeys live 3 years in continues breathing the stuff.

FDA is probably worried about juice makers finding cheaper replacements for the original stuff in e-liquid. That may be the reason e-juice and carts are having a problem getting thru US costoms.

[Alain_JANTY]

PG is a better choice, more is know about it. Monkeys live 3 years in continues breathing the stuff.

Can we find information about this study ?

[Adik Ted]

Maybe this pg400 will be ok for those who are allergic to pg.

[dc2k08]

I don't know what the difference is but it is worth looking into. I was told recently by a Chinese supplier that PG is 'not so good for health' and that they could, if requested, not put it in the carts I was ordering. I asked them what they would put as a substitute..glycerine? they said PEG400 would be best and that this is what they do for their French customers as PG in e-liquid is not allowed there. Does anyone know this to be the case?

[Kate]

There's another thread about PEG here - PEG a new ingredient, instead of PG and VG

[ratedPG]

From the World Intellectual Property Organization: (you can look it up online)

(WO/1995/002393) NON-TOXIC HYPOCOMPATIBLE BIODEGRADABLE GERMICIDE...effective against a wide range of pathogenic organisms including bacteria including staphylococcus aureus, pseudomonas aeruginosa and salmonella choleraesuis and viruses including HIV-I, HIV-II, tuberculosis, polio and herpes simplex type 2, fungi (trichophyton mentagrophytes), mold and mildew...wherein said polyhydric alcohol is selected from the group consisting of propylene glycol; 1 ,3 propanediol; 1 ,2 butanediol, polyethylene glycol; glycerol and 1 ,4 butanediol or mixtures thereof.

From this it seems that PG, PEG, and VG are in the same family of polyhydric alcohols. The germicidal properties of inhaled PG vapor are well-known and documented. The inclusion of PEG and VG as germicides, and the non-toxicity of PG and VG as vapor, would lead me to believe that PEG would be similarly non-toxic as inhaled vapor.

However, there don't seem to be nearly the equivalent studies of the long-term effects of vaporized PEG, as there have been on PG. For that reason, I won't worry unduly about PEG vapor...but I'd rather drip and refill my carts with PG and VG.

[gep]

From Wiki: "...PEG 400 is widely used in a variety of pharmaceutical formulations."

This is the stuff they make you drink 3 liters of the night before you have a colonoscopy. It helps clean the bowels.

Think about that while you vape it.....

[TropicalBob]

Good find, Rated PG. For more on those propylene glycol germicidal properties, see A germ-killing vapor

Those findings are a major reason I continue to e-smoke PG-based liquids.