Gum Disease - E-Cigarette Forum

falling · 03-14-2009, 02:10 PM

My dentist is blaming the Periodontitis I've been suffering from for a year or so on my smoking.

I started vaping recently, but I'm still smoking roll-ups as well. My gums have been getting a lot worse since, but that might be due to other contributing factors (such as stress).

I've been wondering if it's the nicotine (higher concentration from vaping as opposed to smoking?) or the actual smoke in cigarettes that affects the circulation in our gums? I really can't afford to aggravate this problem and am unsure if I'm doing the right thing by aiming to reduce analogues by vaping? Should I also get lower nicotine juice for my e-cigs?

Anyone out there experienced similar problems?

allyoop451 · 03-14-2009, 02:27 PM

I work in a dentist office, and yes smoking can cause gum disease. The nicotine is the culprit. I have been a smoker for 40 yrs, and have just recently started vaping. I have dry mouth, before I started vaping, and now that I am off analogs, I still have dry mouth. I have also had some recession of my gums due to so many yrs of smoking. Reducing the nicotine is the best thing to do!

falling · 03-14-2009, 09:12 PM

Thanks, Ally, that's what I suspected all along. All the more reason to try and get away from nicotine dependency.

I also had the dry mouth when I started vaping. Drinking copious amounts of water is the only answer. This also helps at the beginning of a slight headache and/or sore throat (other possible side effects when you start vaping).

It seems that vaping dehydrates you more than smoking analogues. Anyway, in my opinion, most of our minor aches and pains can be cured with water

Elle · 03-14-2009, 09:19 PM

i have gum issues also, and i've always attributed it to cigarette smoking. i'm sad to learn this may be more of a nicotine rather than cigarette issue. i loves me some nicotine.

so would those who use nrt products such as nicorette also be affected?

allyoop451 · 03-14-2009, 09:28 PM

yes....anything with nicotine in it. It constricts the blood vessels. There is no avoiding it as long as you are ingesting nicotine it will effect your gums. Keep your mouth hydrated as much as possible, and brush and floss at least twice a day, more if possible. There are products out there that can be used for dry mouth, but I have used a few, and it only helps if its used continuously, and who has the time for that! Sprays, rinses, etc. Best bet is to work your way down to 0 Nic. I'm am on the med. right now, next is the low......

falling · 03-14-2009, 09:44 PM

I can't really imagine that the patches would affect your gums, as there is no direct contact between nicotine and the inside of your mouth. Also the patches contain only low doses of nicotine, I suppose.

For my part, I'll try and lower the nicotine strength before doing anything as drastic as zero nicotine. Don't have the strength or willpower to go cold turkey.

EDIT:
Just saw your post, allyoop, and it makes sense what you say. You're the expert after all. We seem to have no choice so, but at least we'll still be puffing away, albeit on 0 Nic.

Elle · 03-14-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falling

Don't have the strength or willpower to go cold turkey.

i don't even have the DESIRE. F$%k. guess i have a long way to go.

falling · 03-14-2009, 09:54 PM

You still look fab, Elle. There's no rush giving up the nicotine. And if it come to the worst, there's always dentures.

Elle · 03-14-2009, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falling

You still look fab, Elle. There's no rush giving up the nicotine. And if it come to the worst, there's always dentures.

LMAO.

ah well, i live in the land of fake body parts anyhow, might as well join in

Starlight · 03-14-2009, 11:00 PM

Hmmm... strange, my dentist seems to have the opposite thought and said it's not the nicotine that causes gum disease but the other ingredients in cigarettes.

03-14-2009, 02:10 PM	#1
falling Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 27	Gum Disease My dentist is blaming the Periodontitis I've been suffering from for a year or so on my smoking. I started vaping recently, but I'm still smoking roll-ups as well. My gums have been getting a lot worse since, but that might be due to other contributing factors (such as stress). I've been wondering if it's the nicotine (higher concentration from vaping as opposed to smoking?) or the actual smoke in cigarettes that affects the circulation in our gums? I really can't afford to aggravate this problem and am unsure if I'm doing the right thing by aiming to reduce analogues by vaping? Should I also get lower nicotine juice for my e-cigs? Anyone out there experienced similar problems?

03-14-2009, 09:44 PM	#6
falling Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 27	I can't really imagine that the patches would affect your gums, as there is no direct contact between nicotine and the inside of your mouth. Also the patches contain only low doses of nicotine, I suppose. For my part, I'll try and lower the nicotine strength before doing anything as drastic as zero nicotine. Don't have the strength or willpower to go cold turkey. EDIT: Just saw your post, allyoop, and it makes sense what you say. You're the expert after all. We seem to have no choice so, but at least we'll still be puffing away, albeit on 0 Nic. Last edited by falling; 03-14-2009 at 09:50 PM. Reason: was too slow with reply

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03-14-2009, 02:27 PM	#2
allyoop451 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11	I work in a dentist office, and yes smoking can cause gum disease. The nicotine is the culprit. I have been a smoker for 40 yrs, and have just recently started vaping. I have dry mouth, before I started vaping, and now that I am off analogs, I still have dry mouth. I have also had some recession of my gums due to so many yrs of smoking. Reducing the nicotine is the best thing to do!

03-14-2009, 09:12 PM	#3
falling Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 27	Thanks, Ally, that's what I suspected all along. All the more reason to try and get away from nicotine dependency. I also had the dry mouth when I started vaping. Drinking copious amounts of water is the only answer. This also helps at the beginning of a slight headache and/or sore throat (other possible side effects when you start vaping). It seems that vaping dehydrates you more than smoking analogues. Anyway, in my opinion, most of our minor aches and pains can be cured with water

03-14-2009, 09:19 PM	#4
Elle Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 401	i have gum issues also, and i've always attributed it to cigarette smoking. i'm sad to learn this may be more of a nicotine rather than cigarette issue. i loves me some nicotine. so would those who use nrt products such as nicorette also be affected?

03-14-2009, 09:28 PM	#5
allyoop451 Full Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 11	yes....anything with nicotine in it. It constricts the blood vessels. There is no avoiding it as long as you are ingesting nicotine it will effect your gums. Keep your mouth hydrated as much as possible, and brush and floss at least twice a day, more if possible. There are products out there that can be used for dry mouth, but I have used a few, and it only helps if its used continuously, and who has the time for that! Sprays, rinses, etc. Best bet is to work your way down to 0 Nic. I'm am on the med. right now, next is the low......

03-14-2009, 09:54 PM	#8
falling Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cork, Ireland Posts: 27	You still look fab, Elle. There's no rush giving up the nicotine. And if it come to the worst, there's always dentures.

03-14-2009, 11:00 PM	#10
Starlight Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: UK Posts: 311	Hmmm... strange, my dentist seems to have the opposite thought and said it's not the nicotine that causes gum disease but the other ingredients in cigarettes.