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Joye 510 Mega atty/Batt - good/bad? in Model Specific Discussion; The reason the atty has to be longer to use a mega cart is simple in design. Look at any ...
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    The reason the atty has to be longer to use a mega cart is simple in design. Look at any model and almost the entire stuffing material of that cart will fit into the atty shaft it matches up with. This is done so the atty can heat up the liquid and stuffing. If you used a std 510 atty and extended just the cart, the material in the cart that is "above the atty shaft" would not heat up correctly and this would greatly effect the vaping experience.

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    so, why are the carts of the superminis e.g. M401 most of the time not touching the atomizer shell ?
    its exactly what it looks like, they just used the design to make us pay even more.

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    As huge as the e-cig market is, you know that if a manufacture could successfully produce a mega cart for a regular 510 atty it would have been produced already. No manufacture is going to ignore making money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperspace View Post
    As huge as the e-cig market is, you know that if a manufacture could successfully produce a mega cart for a regular 510 atty it would have been produced already. No manufacture is going to ignore making money.
    This is EXACTLY why they made the mega atty in order to use mega carts.

    Your second sentence contradicts the first.

    All I will say about needing a longer shell on an atty to make a larger capacity cart is that it is simply not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi Mack View Post
    The reason the atty has to be longer to use a mega cart is simple in design. Look at any model and almost the entire stuffing material of that cart will fit into the atty shaft it matches up with.
    This is done so the atty can heat up the liquid and stuffing. If you used a std 510 atty and extended just the cart, the material in the cart that is "above the atty shaft" would not heat up correctly and this would greatly effect the vaping experience.
    That's a load of bunk. Not as much stuffing material as you say goes into the atty - it's typically around half. And it is not necessary nor desirable for the cart filler to be heated up - and it doesn't happen to any great extent or else the polyfill and/or cart would melt. What would greatly affect the vaping experience (negatively) is if it worked the way you seem to think it does.
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    Any manufacture can make carts for the 510. Why hasn't any manufacture made large carts for small attys? If anyone thinks they can successfully make a large cart work with a small atty, then why aren't they doing it?

    I challenge anyone that thinks they can successfully make a large cart work with a small atty to do so. If it works you can make a boat load of money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dudeman View Post
    This is EXACTLY why they made the mega atty in order to use mega carts.

    Your second sentence contradicts the first.

    All I will say about needing a longer shell on an atty to make a larger capacity cart is that it is simply not true.
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    As an owner of
    a. mega batteries since they came out
    b. mega carts/atties for about 4 weeks
    you can take my advice or not.

    1. mega batteries, good but not that good. Better spend your money on a TW tornnado battery - also marketed as the dura eGo. 8hrs vape as opposed to 2hrs on the mega

    2. mega carts and atties. These have the exact same probs as the std ones. They just dont wick very well. So you may have more liquid in the cart BUT the only liquid you care about is the little bit at the top, so no better than std.

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    I'm not convinced that you couldn't put a spacer sleeve on the mega cart and have it work with the std atty. You might have to cut a dead 510 atty tube in half, but as long as the tubes line up it should work. (might need to put a piece of tape arround them to seal for air leaks).

    But I'm not sure enough to pay the extra for the mega carts.

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    since it was mentioned, I'm curious about the high voltage atomizers. What do they do? Do they run hotter on a regular battery or are they simply set up more for the high voltage mods?

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    Simply put... The mega cart will not work effectively on a standard atty because it will flood that atty. With the increased space for fluid capacity in the mega cart... The mega atty had to be introduced to increase the wall length for the proper fluid dynamics. The heat from the element is used as a catalyst for multiple reasons besides the obvious.

    1. The heat is used to vaporize the liquid into vapor.
    2. If you think of characteristics dealing with viscosity.. The wadding in the cart is simply storage area for the juice. The walls of the atty transfer the heat from the element as well and as such, this is how the juice is dispensed to the element. Thermal dynamics implemented in this design makes use of the heat from the element across the metal atty and makes the transition of juices from the cart to the element follow the path of least resistance. As you can see, the mega cart requires the extended material of the matched atty to function properly.

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