Need honest reviews of the JB by some of the new ones received

[juicefreak]

What has me just a little bit freaked is not the wait as much as the not so favorable reviews. I totally get the learning curve. We've all dealt with that no matter what model we choose, and that's why the tips and tricks and techie forums have lots of posts and helpful answers.

Some of the things i've heard are:

• It floods. not flooding was a major selling point for me, so just how bad is it to flood once you get past the learning curve? some ppl have said it floods as soon as they screw the bottle back on. I saw carlos video of how to drain the tube a 2nd time as you're putting the bottle back on. is that a step that ppl are missing or is that not fool proof?

• I think Clumsy said it prefers VG juice. Is that what's being used when we see the clouds of vapor in the videos, and then wimpy vapor from actual users videos? the reason I ask is because I can't use VG. Plus i think it would be a TH killer.

• Carlos has redesigned the atty and don't quote me, but i think he said it doesn't run as hot or produce burnt flavor? I thought the old atty didn't produce a burnt vapor? i can't STAND burnt flavor and that's why i seldom even use my 5v passthroughs. I'm a low volter, so this is a concern, not knowing which atty i will be getting

• Others have said they've put paper in the bottle hole to block air. Again don't quote me because i have an ole lady brain and don't remember verbatim well. Someone else said if you put your finger over the atty hole or something like that, it gives a better hit.

I'm just HOPING the JB doesn't have all these issues on a regular basis. I need something that simply works. I don't want to have to start modding a mod to get it to work right. My hands are total crap, my eyes are crap. I'm looking for something to make my life easier, not more of the same.

please don't anyone jump on me for these questions. I'm italian and have bit my tongue on that kind of treatment for asking questions. trust me on that one

I'm just trying to figure out the difference between Porphy's great videos demo'g it and the tutorial. I know he pumped the hell out of that bottle and it didn't flood once, but that one had the little plunger button on it, not the new sculpted hole ones.

So, if anyone has gotten one of the JBTL2's or whatever they are called, can you please chime in with your honest results and tshooting snafus? Speaking for myself, it will help me in deciding what to do about the situation.

the thing that keeps me waiting is the reviews for FLAVOR and the 18650 battery. I stocked up on those, have a charger, and gave iken my 10440/14550 battery charger for his dad, so i'm SOL and back to the drawing board before my present stash of parts run dry from age.

Appreciate any info.

[kemuri]

the thing that keeps me waiting is the reviews for FLAVOR and the 18650 battery. I stocked up on those, have a charger, and gave iken my 10440/14550 battery charger for his dad, so i'm SOL and back to the drawing board before my present stash of parts run dry from age.

Appreciate any info.

juicefreak, I got the JB due to 3 things--great convenience in feeding liquid to the atty , the long lasting atty and I liked the idea of a modder tackling the 2 main weaknesses of ecigs, which are of course having to fiddle with liquids and spend pretty good $ on atty replacement. I'm happy with the JB.

The 18650 battery lasts me into the second day. I do vape other pv's during the day however. I tend to vape heavily.

The flavor production part is where you'll get answers all over the place, depending on the user. For me nothing can beat a 401 and an 801 flavor-wise and JB would be in the middle but superior to 901, 808 and 510.

Most of the time I've used PG and had no problems with PG liquids and none with PG-VG mixes I concocted out of curiosity. My learning curve I'd say was about 3 days at least. I find the vapor production to be quite good and warm.

[Snarkyone]

I have heard from a few people that said they had flooding issues and I find that hard to believe under normal use. One of the first users made the claim that it could not be flooded but I have never TRIED to flood it, I use it like a normal person would, there is no need to push things to the extreme just to see if it can take it.

The only problem I have EVER had prior to the atomizer finally failing was the switch required constant pressure which I understand has been changed thus creating the delay in getting enough of the new style switches.

The thing with refilling it with the hole covered is news to me, I never ONCE had to blow into a hole or do ANYTHING GOOFY to replace the juice. I simply removed the old bottle and replaced with a new one or refilled that one. NO problems whatsoever, so I really don't know what some of these people are doing but they must be doing something crazy. I have no idea so I can't speak on their experience only mine.

As for the flavors and vapor it has to be experienced to truly appreciate it. Hope this helps with some questions.

[clyde2801]

One of the things that bothers me is that reviews could always be a little more thorough and balanced. EVERY design has pros and cons, and these are to a certain degree subjective.

Longer term reviews would be nice. To me a mod is like a girlfriend, you can only really get to know them after you've lived with them for a while. A review of a product fresh out of the box, only going over points or features highlighted by the maker and blowing a cloud or two of vape is of limited use to me. Same thing for a post of 'eh, it sucks, i'm selling mine'. Such superficial acrimonious hype and counter hype doesn't do anyone any favors, especially Carlos.

What's nice about the jb and other proof of concepts out there is that they promise to make vaping available and attractive to the now still smoking masses. Reasonably priced, low maintenance, easy to operate mods are a win for everyone.

[MHR7331]

It floods like CRAZY. Okay, say you've properly blown it out and are enjoying the vape (huge vapor, terribly bad throat hit, natch)... you decide it's time to cautiously give the bottle a nudge. After doing so, the burnt taste lingers, so you give it another go... queue the dreaded gurgling sound. Now you can wait an hour or so before it starts vaping properly again, or just blow it out. It is an extremely finicky device, and one that seems like it shouldn't have made it past the beta stage. Or, maybe I'm just retarded. Let's see what others have to say about it.

[matrixdutch]

Ugh. Throat hit is a huge issue for me. That's disheartening.

It floods like CRAZY. Okay, say you've properly blown it out and are enjoying the vape (huge vapor, terribly bad throat hit, natch)... you decide it's time to cautiously give the bottle a nudge. After doing so, the burnt taste lingers, so you give it another go... queue the dreaded gurgling sound. Now you can wait an hour or so before it starts vaping properly again, or just blow it out. It is an extremely finicky device, and one that seems like it shouldn't have made it past the beta stage. Or, maybe I'm just retarded. Let's see what others have to say about it.

[Stormynights]

It is too bad we can't just get together for a JB vape party. It is impossible to figure out what someone is doing wrong. I never have to push my bottle more than once. I really wish I could be more help. All I can say is don't be too fast to give up.

[Stormynights]

Ugh. Throat hit is a huge issue for me. That's disheartening.

I think this is something each person has to decide on an individual basis. We don't all use the same juice or power. Maybe if we could compare previous choice atomizers and volts it would be easier to decide if the JB will work for you. Someone needs to start a poll.

[highping]

It is too bad we can't just get together for a JB vape party....

You mean all 10 of you that actually have a JB That's going to be quite the shin-dig.

Back on topic: I have to say the reviews on this thing seem to be at the most extreme ends of the spectrum of any device I have seen. It is either the best thing ever, or it sucks hind tit. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground.

[Kismayaz]

If you have no throat hit on your juicebox you are surely not using it right. It has its getting used to, but it's not rocket science.

Juicefreak -

I've never done that "remove the bottle, cover hole, blow out atty thing" If it floods, you just get to enjoy the flavor until it burns up enough juice to continue producing vapor. Once you get that dry burnt sensation, you give it a half pump or less. Repeat as needed. Don't put paper or anything else inside your box or whatever. You can use whatever juice you want with it. It works the same as in any other PV. VG = more vapor, less TH. PG = less vapor, more TH. Same principle applies here. Don't get too wound up in all the "mods to the mod" ideas. The idea already works as described once you get the hang of it. Don't stress yourself out.