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    Per 1 bottle of base you would need 2 vials total

    Hope this helps ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demlevis View Post
    The quotes above should answer your question... except the part about how juice is sold in Australia. I guess you could call this "DIY light" since you don't mix the unflavored base yourself. You're just adding flavoring to the base.
    I wouldn't even call it DIY lite. I'd call it buying flavor and nic separate. Maybe shake and bake would be a better term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boborone View Post
    Maybe shake and bake would be a better term.
    ive been telling my freinds "shake and vape"
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    This is more of a test. If the FDA rulings pass as is, this is how all sales would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjtown View Post
    ive been telling my freinds "shake and vape"
    Quote Originally Posted by Walt83 View Post
    This is more of a test. If the FDA rulings pass as is, this is how all sales would be.
    I kinda like the phrase"shake and vape"!

    Actually, Walt, this appeals to me more than "true" DIY. With kids and animals in the house, having e-juice in the house is enough of a risk - I don't want a high concentration nic liquid around. I'll leave that to the guys with the labs and the right equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt83 View Post
    This is more of a test. If the FDA rulings pass as is, this is how all sales would be.
    I think a better name for it from a business stand point would be something like "Build Your Own Killer Juice", " KJ @ Home", "Killer Mixes", something that doesn't use the acronym DIY but still evokes a sense of the consumer making the product.

    It's a great idea what you're doing, and what I thought of when the FDA first started scaring people months ago. I just think DIY isn't the right thing to call it.

    I was pretty excited when Jeff told me you were going to start selling flavors for DIY. And saw you wanted to be cheaper than WL. Got even more excited. But I was very disappointed at what was implemented. Buy a vial of flavor that is predetermined to make an amount of juice. And the end result isn't that much.

    Some flavors take as little as a drop (TFA Caramel Cappuccino) and some can be as much as 20% (TFA Cinnamon Danish). And then you adjust those even more when making recipes. Some more, some less.

    I'm not at all trying to bash what you're doing. I like innovative ideas and applaud those who act on them. It's great for a consumer, and see the following you have here will no doubt use it. But if you took to either the side of mixing yourself (just a name change) or actual DIY (a change in making it mixes to just flavors) I think it would be better from both sides of the average consumer not following you here on ECF that actually does DIY and the people who just want to experiment with mixing flavors.

    With all the interaction you have here, you can have threads on recipes, threads for percentage base flavor, threads on how to DIY. Even hold contests and make the recipes part of your line for those who don't DIY to buy. Believe me, the following you have here, and how involved you are here, I see great things. I'm just seeing this from my general consumer mind and getting confused.

    Take a look at http://www.ejuicecig.com

    Those guys actually do their own flavors that you can buy ready to vape, you can buy their flavors for DIY, you can buy the necessities for DIY. That is something I was looking forward to when you announced you were doing this. It's a site you can buy juice from AND it's a site for DIY.
    This is all just my opinion and take it for what it's worth. I'm just a guy on the internet. Really I am. Just that. But I am a guy who is interested in buying your flavors and I'm a guy with a history in marketing and consumer interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demlevis View Post
    I kinda like the phrase"shake and vape"!

    Actually, Walt, this appeals to me more than "true" DIY. With kids and animals in the house, having e-juice in the house is enough of a risk - I don't want a high concentration nic liquid around. I'll leave that to the guys with the labs and the right equipment.
    i think walt should coin 'shake and vape' before the rullings i also like the idea of a ready to use base with less risk. specially if after the rullings you had your normal flavors in the vials(like blue mooon ) that way we can have what we already know and love, and you still get your creativity out with flavorings. this just seems like the most practical thing in the world and im sooo glad your playing around with it
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    New to this forum : )

    What if you purchased a 30ml bottle of retail Cherry last month. You wanted to add a hint of Vanilla to the bottle of Cherry. How much of the Vanilla Flavor Concentrate 8ml would you add to the bottle of Cherry?
    There are so many people out there who will tell you that you can't. What you've got to do is turn around and say "Watch me!" ~~~Layne Beachley~~~

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    ummm... a drop at time til it was good? walts stuff i think iss a more outta the bottle approach i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by rosepetal View Post
    New to this forum : )

    What if you purchased a 30ml bottle of retail Cherry last month. You wanted to add a hint of Vanilla to the bottle of Cherry. How much of the Vanilla Flavor Concentrate 8ml would you add to the bottle of Cherry?
    I would use no more than .5 - 1 ml first to try. If a customer asked for a hint I would add 1ml to a 30ml bottles

    Hope this helps!

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