Am I the ONLY one that doesn't like the KR808D-1???

[Henry ∇ George]

from what i understand reading, to increase vapor production, add a little big of VG and/or water. to increase throat hit, add a little bit of alcohol. could be the juice and not the device.

[Drozd]

from what i understand reading, to increase vapor production, add a little big of VG and/or water. to increase throat hit, add a little bit of alcohol. could be the juice and not the device.

That's not going to fix the anything about that sucking air through a straw airflow problem...
Simple fact of the matter is that that particular company changed the size of the airholes at the threads to supposedly work better with their premium cartomizers..because the cartomizers have a lower resistance they burn hotter (hence why they produce more vapor than the standard ones) but they enlarged the airholes to help cool the hotter cartomizer better..unfortunately this made an all too airy draw even worse...
Further on a standard battery 3.7V, the lower the resistance of the atomizer the more heat and better vapor and TH (some flavors (like tobaccos or coffees) do better at more heat, some (fruits) better at lower heat)... so standard cartomizer is 3.0ohm, premium cartomizers 2.5ohm, 510 atomizer 2.3ohm ...so on a 3.7V battery the 510 will put out more vapor and TH ...its simply an epression of Ohms law...even if you take into account that a 510 battery rates in at more like 3.3V the 510 atty produces more heat than the KR8..
My point here is they should be able to get what satisfies them right out of the box without having to play around with mixing juice...
In that vein without going the mod route and sticking to stock batteries, in order of decending performance you've got..
low ohm 510 atty with adapter on a KR8 battery
low ohm 510 atty on an eGo battery
standard joye 510 battery w adapter on a KR8 battery
standard eGo or 510
premium carto on an eGo battery
premium carto on a KR8 battery
standard KR8
801
901

now if we eliminate the KR8 battery which is where their issue lays (prticularly since by reading their problem it sounds as if they have XL KR8 autos (the manuals ARE better))...see strikethroughs above...granted I am assuming because they are trying to switch that they are using tobacco type flavors or menthol...as tastes change what is optimal for the flavor of juice may change

[dinnerandamurder]

Since I really don't want to try to find and purchase another 4 starter kits somewhere else, I would really like to get these to working, even if it takes a mod. The xl batteries do last a good long time compared to the dismal battery life on our greensmokes. I have not had an xl battery go dead at all. Meaning I charge them for the night before they start dying. Can't get that with any of the shorter batteries.

I was thinking instead of getting the 501 attys with the adapters, which I had read helped this issue. Anyone have feedback on this or a way to seal some of the holes? If I use a 501 atty with adapter, what cart do I use? Or do you just drip the atty? Noob here.

[HzG8rGrl]

Pawpaw from the v4l subforum said he stuck a toothpick in one of the holes to tighten the draw up. Before you do this though, find him and ask exactly what and how he did this. Hope this helps.

[5cardstud]

Well I don't know about the KR808D-1 unit but the cartos are the greatest thing since ice cream. That is all I use any more and I can fill this room with vapor. One thing I noticed was the cartos like volts. Mine wouldn't produce alot of vapor on low voltages like the 510 but on my 5 volt passthrough and my 5 volt mods it's great. Now my 3.7 mod with dual cartomizers puts out vapor like a teapot, but it has 2 18650 3000mah batteries on it. Get a 5 volt passthrough for it. You can still use it in the car or the houst.

[dinnerandamurder]

I will look into the toothpick idea. I really love the battery life on these xl's, but the air issue is a killer.

[Pawpaw]

Pawpaw from the v4l subforum said he stuck a toothpick in one of the holes to tighten the draw up. Before you do this though, find him and ask exactly what and how he did this. Hope this helps.

I will look into the toothpick idea. I really love the battery life on these xl's, but the air issue is a killer.

Super simple, semi-permanent, yet easily reversible if you decide you don't like it.

Simply put the tip of a round wooden toothpick in one of the little air holes in the battery connector. Break it off, then use your fingernail or something to make sure it's jammed in good and tight.

If you still need a firmer draw, do it to another air hole.

If you decide to reverse it, just use a pin to dig it out.

Hope this helps.

[Guineahill]

I love the toothpick trick... and recommend that and the skinny tape to everyone who asks how to stiffen up the draw on a Kr8 battery! It is a whole lot easier to make the draw a little tighter than it is to loosen it up - so I would rather have the batteries be too airy than too tight!

[HzG8rGrl]

There's pawpaw-Thank you for showing up to the post!!!!

[cos]

I get pretty much decent vapor and TH on my KR808 cartos but i fill them with High Voltage liquid from Nahler. i used to have hardly any vapor when i used to buy the filled cartos thats why i switched to filling my own. I also use greencigs and i get loads of vapor there but a lighter TH so i usually spike up my nic level on my greencigs. Few people mentioned Greensmoke before. i would love to try one of these cartos. does the greensmoke fit any other batteries like KR808 with or without an adapter? would anyone know. Thanks