Am I the ONLY one that doesn't like the KR808D-1???

[Jessa]

That was my 100th post- yay!

[kc0cmp]

Ive vaped on autos, manuals and passthrus using pretty much all flavors of carts I can get my hands on.

If you aren't getting vapor, then something is wrong, either with what you are doing, or with your equipment.

Outside of my raspberry carts, I get awesome vapor from my stuff.

I just got a "virginia" cart from V4L that is nearly vaporless, but throat hit out of this world. So far it's the only one ive gotten from *anyone* that didnt produce clouds of vapor, as my cartomizer and battery reviews show. Something grieveously wrong somewhere I'd say, thats just not an issue ive ever had with a KR808D-1 even with funky offbrand cartomizers.

[kc0cmp]

I have to admit, I'm not overly impressed with the performance of batteries on the '808, and had they been the basis of my introduction to them, I might feel differently about the product.

I decided to go the passthrough route initially for economy, coupled with a Kensington battery pack for portability, and I couldn't be more pleased with the product. Vapor production may be slightly less than my 510 when it's at it's peak, but the flavor, quality, and consistency of the vape goes far beyond what I ever achieved with the 510.

Two key points here; "at it's peak" and "consistency". I was constanly fiddling with the 510, trying out different fillers, straw mods, and what have you, to get that peak performance.

Now, my "fiddling" is limited to refilling my working stock of cartomizers once a day. I still primarily use the passthrough, and the extra-long batteries are acceptible when I need to be "untethered". At some point I'll upgrade to a 5-volt mod, but I'll definitely be sticking with cartomizers.

careful with the 5V..tried that with not what I'd call unlimited success. People dont realize that the typical passthrough doesnt actually deliver on its 5v promise at the atty.

First there's that teenie cord (this is intentional) that drops voltage and amperage available to the atty. This is Chinese cheap and dirty voltage regulation at it's finest...remember passthroughs were designed as a "battery replacement"...their goal was to deliver 3.7-4.2v at the atty under a load. Because the voltage source is constant..they dont fall on their butt like the typical battery does so you actually get more like 4.4v out of the better passthroughs at the atty.

When you throw on a pair of 123a batts, you discover that 6v is a cartomizer killer. When you then decide to throttle those two down to 5v..you *still* have a cartomizer killer unless its sopping wet all the time. once it gets about half vaped, its in danger again.

Honestly, 3.7 from a nice high amperage batt like an 18650 works best..beyond that and cartomizers start gettin sacrificed at the vaping altar.

[MHR7331]

I know, I don't get it either. Granted, vapor is not my first priority but I do get quite a lot from my KR, especially with the 0 nic or low nic cartos. It's a puzzler...

Wormwood just posted this video and I noticed that the amount of vapor he is getting in this is about what I get pretty consistantly. Do you get less then this and need more?

YouTube - My computer desk V4L setup

Yeah, that's about how much I get with a fresh 380mah batt. It's just not very satisfying when you've got a batt mod churning out plumes of vapor... Still, i like their practicality, and will pick up one of those 510 adapters to try. I'd rather wait than buy the 510>901>carto adapters.

[jphurley]

Terrific post. I actually came on here today looking for info on the KR808D-1, as I received mine last Friday and found myself loving the clean flavor, but disappointed with the lack of vapor. Throat hit also seemed dismal. The only way I could get a nice hit was if I inhaled directly into my lungs..which is an uncomfortable technique for me.

However, I came across a post somewhere that said to ensure the cartomizer is screwed onto the battery as tight as it can be on the KR808D-1. After doing this, I noticed an immediate improvement in vapor production. Not as much as my 510 or M401....but far better than it had been.

As of right now, I'm using it as my secondary for menthol (which tastes far superior in the KR than my 510 or M401) - but I don't see it ever being my favorite PV.

I think I'd like it much better with whistle tips...as the cartomizer feels too big for my mouth and it's tough to get a tight seal with my lips.

[anim8r]

Hope I don't ruffle any feathers, but I think this is the appropriate place to post this.

The only thing I like about it is the concept. I have two from V4L (one's a manual), and two from Vapor Kings. They're all the same. There is almost NO vapor. I guess I'm spoiled with my Green Smoke (tons of vapor) but it's the tiniest plume (or none at all) when I exhale. I am just so disappointed with it.

I'm going to try Greencig, and if that doesn't do it I'm going to stick with my Green Smoke. The only thing I don't like about GS is that the throat hit is very weak. I hope I can find the best of both worlds.

Yeah, the Green Smoke kind of ruins you on the vapor production of other e-cigs. Really surprizing the amount of vapor you get from a 3 second drag.

If I want to show off, I use the GS

Plus, they're vanilla is awesome!

I just wish they had 24mg nic carts.

[Big Daddy]

Terrific post. I actually came on here today looking for info on the KR808D-1, as I received mine last Friday and found myself loving the clean flavor, but disappointed with the lack of vapor. Throat hit also seemed dismal. The only way I could get a nice hit was if I inhaled directly into my lungs..which is an uncomfortable technique for me.

However, I came across a post somewhere that said to ensure the cartomizer is screwed onto the battery as tight as it can be on the KR808D-1. After doing this, I noticed an immediate improvement in vapor production. Not as much as my 510 or M401....but far better than it had been.

As of right now, I'm using it as my secondary for menthol (which tastes far superior in the KR than my 510 or M401) - but I don't see it ever being my favorite PV.

I think I'd like it much better with whistle tips...as the cartomizer feels too big for my mouth and it's tough to get a tight seal with my lips.

jp....If you have an 801 soft rubber whistle tip it will fit on the carto. of a Kr808D-1 with a little work and once stretched it will fit easily after that, I've been using them for a long time.
John

[DaMulta]

careful with the 5V..tried that with not what I'd call unlimited success. People dont realize that the typical passthrough doesnt actually deliver on its 5v promise at the atty.

First there's that teenie cord (this is intentional) that drops voltage and amperage available to the atty. This is Chinese cheap and dirty voltage regulation at it's finest...remember passthroughs were designed as a "battery replacement"...their goal was to deliver 3.7-4.2v at the atty under a load. Because the voltage source is constant..they dont fall on their butt like the typical battery does so you actually get more like 4.4v out of the better passthroughs at the atty.

When you throw on a pair of 123a batts, you discover that 6v is a cartomizer killer. When you then decide to throttle those two down to 5v..you *still* have a cartomizer killer unless its sopping wet all the time. once it gets about half vaped, its in danger again.

Honestly, 3.7 from a nice high amperage batt like an 18650 works best..beyond that and cartomizers start gettin sacrificed at the vaping altar.

I vape on 6v to 7v in the morning, and evening on cartomizers every day. I have yet to kill one, and I love the flavor they produce at high voltage.

[matt-attack]

wow. i dunno if u guys read the thread i had posted about the KR on the newbie board, but thank you! I Get VERY VERY little vapor out of my KR808 no matter how i hit it! I couldnt for the life of me figure out why everyone is saying they get huge amounts. im returning mine to VK for a 510. love the idea of a 2-piece, KR is not for me. ..and Green Smoke is waay to expensive.. lol. Oh well back to dipping and refilling and cutting out stuffing, yada yada yada... any other suggestion on cartos??

[tpboles]

wow. i dunno if u guys read the thread i had posted about the KR on the newbie board, but thank you! I Get VERY VERY little vapor out of my KR808 no matter how i hit it! I couldnt for the life of me figure out why everyone is saying they get huge amounts. im returning mine to VK for a 510. love the idea of a 2-piece, KR is not for me. ..and Green Smoke is waay to expensive.. lol. Oh well back to dipping and refilling and cutting out stuffing, yada yada yada... any other suggestion on cartos??

Matt - check out the modders forum. I am using the spring mod in my 510 now and it is perfect! I get around 13 drops in it and it vapes every last drop before needing refilled! And absolutely no leaks