# of refills? And when do you toss a carto? in Model Specific Discussion; Originally Posted by Nietzsc
I've read a lot of people that say the filler inside gets burned, but only one ...
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Nietzsc
I've read a lot of people that say the filler inside gets burned, but only one spot gets burned (where the coil makes contact) so I'm going to try to re-acomodate the filler inside and see what happens cause the rest of the filler is still in good shape.
Keep a very close eye on the burning. People, myself included, are having issues with burnt carts after very little use. We don't know what we are inhaling at that point. You can try to keep them topped off, but the problem comes from the most inner fiber that is dry long before the outer filler. When that inner filler dries, burning takes place.
Good luck and be careful and alert.
Greencig carts are a better alternative, though not as tasty, I am told.
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The problem I have with cartomizers is that after 3 or 4 refills they start to produce less vapor. The resistance is still good on the cartomizer, actually the same as new, but the vapor is the one that gets very low.
Any advice?
Have you tried washing them out?
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Originally Posted by
Nietzsc
The problem I have with cartomizers is that after 3 or 4 refills they start to produce less vapor. The resistance is still good on the cartomizer, actually the same as new, but the vapor is the one that gets very low.
Any advice?
Certainly the e-liquid that you use will have a bearing on this. Generally speaking.. the "darker liquids" often have more "stuff" in them ("stuff" being a highly scientific term)... and that stuff doesn't readily vaporize. It tends to stay in the filler material, or worse yet, form a carbonized crust and/or film on the nichrome heating element. And that can reduce the vapor production.
I don't know of a good and reliable way to remove that cooked-on "stuff" on a cartomizer.
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Scottbee
Certainly the e-liquid that you use will have a bearing on this. Generally speaking.. the "darker liquids" often have more "stuff" in them ("stuff" being a highly scientific term)... and that stuff doesn't readily vaporize. It tends to stay in the filler material, or worse yet, form a carbonized crust and/or film on the nichrome heating element. And that can reduce the vapor production.
I don't know of a good and reliable way to remove that cooked-on "stuff" on a cartomizer.
That has been my experience. In fact, my cartomizers have an average lifespan that is in direct proportion to how dark my liquids are. I vape nothing but Tasty Vapor Doublers mixed with my own nicotine, and the cartos I use for the light colored flavors last longer than ones I use with medium colored flavors, which outlast the cartos I use with the dark colored flavors. Always. And this experiment's been producing the same results for months now.
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Thanks all, well this is my first time with cartomizers so I haven't had the time to sit down and test a bunch of options. These cartos are from HeavenGifts and also the liquid (Dekang) and both flavors that I'm using aren't dark at all.
I took apart one of the cartos and noticed a hole on the thing wrapped around the coil and a little burn on the filler.
I'll report back after trying stuff...
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I thought that decrease in vapor production was due to the fact that the filler was burned, but if it's because of build up in the coil then I see no point trying to fix them.
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I imagine that either can contribute. I haven't had an issue with burning filler - at least not yet.
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I top off alot and Im a lazy refiller.I havent had any probs with burning,but they are disposable,so Im not too worried about it.
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Hi newbie here, just ordered a VaporKing, can't wait to get it. I went with the VK after reading many of the posts here. I know it will vary from person to person, but approx how many analogs is a cartomizer equal to? I only smoke about 1/2 a pack a day, Trying to get a feel for how long 15 pre filled carts will last. I bought some juice as well.
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