Disappointed

[Diablo1399]

I just got my KR808D-1, and I'm a little bummed about it. There's less vapour and throat hit than my 510. Additionally, there's a 5-second cutoff time on the manual batteries which is really annoying. The vapour also feels more watery.

Batterty life and cartridge life may be a little better but so far I'm underwhelmed.

[NCC]

Sorry you are disappointed, especially considering your location. It highlights how much choice of a PV is very subjective. I'd trade my 510 for another KR808 any day ... well, except for my TorneGo that is. I feel I get much better flavor from the KR808 ... go figure.

I would suggest an XL Manual battery though. Not only better charge life, but a 10-13 second cutoff. I'd be annoyed with a 5 second cutoff too.

OTOH, even though it's not mine, the 510 is a favorite of many, many folks.

[JimStanmore]

I felt the same way at first. Then I realized that I was going between 2 and 3 hours without refilling or dripping (my first carto lasted 4 hours!) and I started to like it better. I now use my 808 almost exclusively because I refill a bunch of cartos (20 - 30) on Sunday afternoon and don't have to do much during the week. Sometimes I top off a carto, but usually I just grab another and throw the old one in my bag.

I especially like the fact that If I want to change flavors I can just screw on another carto. The 808 PCC is a lot better than my 510 PCC. There is no longer the concern over a bad atomizer or that lovely taste when breaking in a new atty. With the 40+ cartos I have, the stock of 510 and 901 batts, 510 and 901 passthoughs, and the juice I have on hand I can probably go 3 or 4 months without ordering juice with nicotine and who knows how long using 0 nic PG from the pharmacy (510 batts need an adapter, I drilled a hole in the 901 batts for air draw) in case the US FDA makes things really bad.

Also keep in mind that not all cartomizers are equal. I personally really like my LeCig and V4L cartos and Bluegrass Vapor has good ones too at a nice price. The juice you refill with is the next issue. Poor juice = poor performance. I have my favorites and my mistakes. LeCig, ULTRApure and Vermont Vapor are high on my list after Ms T's Bakery when I want some bacon, french toast or apple pie to balance the camel and flue-cured tobacco. I have also been experimenting with Alien Visions. So, it is not just the electronics, but the juice that might be the issue you are working with.

I go through a lot less paper towels and my desk is no longer constantly covered with bottles, syringes, polyfil and fluval. Fiddling with my 510 and 901 cartridges was great for keeping my hands busy and getting involved when I first dropped analogs, but now I enjoy the vaping more than the experimenting. I did have to get used to less vapor and hit than I had with my 801 atty on a Copper up to. Man, I could go through some juice fast...

You may adjust like I did or go back to the tried and trusty 510. I try out my 510, 901, 801, be112 and Copper about weekly, but always end up carryng and using my cartos. I have actually started using the 510 soft cartos more and more so I guess I am officially using an 808/510.

Good luck.

[AltrusianGrace]

@JimStanmore
Couldnt agree with you more. I started out on a 510 and loved it. But after a string of dead attys , leaking juice , all the stupid (well , actually quite clever) mods - blue foam , straws , etc etc , I just got tired of it and tried the 808. It does have a little less throat hit , but I think a lot more taste.
And the convenience cant be overstated. Especially when you are out and about.
I do agree about the 5 second cutoff. Should be 7 minimum.
@ncc
Thanks for the heads up on the alternate battery. I'll have to see if those will fit in my PCC.
Do you have a link to those batts, I couldnt find it doing a search?

A good thing to do with the stock batts is to lightly puff for a couple of seconds to preheat the cart , let off for a sec and then hit for the full five.
I almost never have a problem getting a good hit that way.

[Momba]

Didn't Australia Ban e cigs, this info being from fox news non the less.

[lorikay13]

fyi....VaporKings carries an extra large cartomizer for the 510. This is NOT the whimpy little soft mini carto. It runs at about 2.7ohm so you'll get all the flavor and TH you want but it will likely burn out faster and will need to be kept wet at all times. Also rotating them and not chain vaping might help. They are blank so you can add whatever juice you want.