Calling all USA college students and bar hoppers!

[the88thcrazy]

I just hope this doesn't some how backfire on us. This will definitely draw attention if successful, meaning the FDA might enforce their rules a little bit more strictly than they have been. but, lets not look at that! the only way to fight it is to fight as a group, and preferably a large one

[RaverCJ]

Well, I've definitely shown it to friends, friends of their friends, etc. PV's have been received pretty well by both smokers and non-smokers alike here on campus in Los Angeles. I've actually only received one bad comment that went something along the lines of "Wait, so if it has nicotine, what's the point?" I really didn't take it too seriously, as obviously, she didn't quite understand that nicotine isn't necessarily the most harmful chemical in analogs.

That being said, I think I've received the best responses form Chemistry or Pre-Med majors. They seem to be the ones that understand the potential benefits best.

Anyways, I'm not openly promoting it on campus, nor am I marketing it. I'm just doing my part to educate the the people around me who are curious.

If the responses on campus are any indication of how well the general public will respond to e-cigarettes once it becomes much more public, I think there is a bit of light at the end of the tunnel. I'm really hoping this FDA thing doesn't affect us vapers too terribly.

[Burn0uts0n]

I too am from bowling Green, and i have gotten a few people to jump on board with the whole digital smoking thing. crazy, small world

[pam]

I have written to my senators and reps in Pennsylvania, Cancer Society,Lung association and Pelosi. The only real reply that I have rec'd was from someone at the lung association, stating that their was no testing.

I don't understand why the Lung Association isn't testing these themselves. This is innovative new technology that could very possibly eliminate a large percentage of respiratory illnesses. If there is some aspect that is found to be unsafe, it could probably be easily changed. Plus, the device has significant potential for drug delivery to the lungs which could someday be used to actually treat lung diseases. Rather than acting like a bunch of Luddites and dismissing this technology for lack of testing, they should be at the forefront of testing. People donate to them expecting them to be a leader in the area of research and development for the prevention of lung diseases and instead they are being obstructionists.

[the88thcrazy]

I too am from bowling Green, and i have gotten a few people to jump on board with the whole digital smoking thing. crazy, small world

Heh, i like to sneak little puffs in the middle of class for the fun of it.

[jmoney]

I think we definitely need to start figuring out how to get a consolidated and wide spread message out there. We can talk about it all day and night long in the forum, but we need to figure out how to start taking actions that will educate and let the people who want votes know we are out there. We need the medical voices we have, we need the supplier and manufacturer voices, and user voices and stories and experiences.

So do we have any good PR people on here that knows how to get our information out?

Do we have someone in Stearns and other government districts that can contact them and ask them how we could best support them in this battle?

Do we have any media (tv, print, or radio) that can give us guidance on how to get our word out.

What is our unified message? We have to prove to people that their logic to ban these is totally ir-rational, especially since the alternative for us who quit analogs is to go back to them and as they say 'die'.

My promotion company is already spreading them like crazy down here is south texas...we banned smoking on our party buses because so many complained out the smoke so people have been asking where to get them...now it just has a list of suppliers written on the back of every ticket...its really just about finding smokers who want to smoke where they cant, there are tons of these things puffing around the clubs bars and buses we promote...

[SnarkyClark]

I don't understand why the Lung Association isn't testing these themselves. This is innovative new technology that could very possibly eliminate a large percentage of respiratory illnesses. If there is some aspect that is found to be unsafe, it could probably be easily changed. Plus, the device has significant potential for drug delivery to the lungs which could someday be used to actually treat lung diseases. Rather than acting like a bunch of Luddites and dismissing this technology for lack of testing, they should be at the forefront of testing. People donate to them expecting them to be a leader in the area of research and development for the prevention of lung diseases and instead they are being obstructionists.

I believe they simply do not want people getting used to the act of 'smoking'. The fact that they look and work just like cigarettes is going to completely block any legitimate medical uses of our PVs. Maybe the pipe/cigar ones and maybe something like the SD might have a tiny, slim chance - and ONLY if there was no exhaled vapor and no flavoring.

If asked, they would likely state that the risks of increased cultural tolerance of the general act of 'smoking' (or anything like it) would overshadow any possible medical benefits...

[kgonepostl]

I believe your right, I showed it to a friend, the rest of my friends HAD to see it and smoke it them self. Two friends bought a kit through me. Now my email and phone is off the hook with calls of where to get them.

This is a good thing. When they try to take us down it's better in bigger numbers. I'm gonna go full swing next month and get at least 50 people. Goal is 100. I'll ask them all to make an unbiased youtube video that I can put on a playlist of how it changed their lives. Maybe that will get through the governments thick skulls even just a drop, but every drop counts. Everybody needs to REPORT on video their honest candid opinion or it's just text on a website. Need to see the reaction as well as read it.

[lordmage]

i already resold 7 kits to friends and as soon as i am really doing it i am gonna go full swing my self right now i am just selling them from the sites they just payme because they dont have net acess so i get and honest middle man tip.

[the88thcrazy]

i already resold 7 kits to friends and as soon as i am really doing it i am gonna go full swing my self right now i am just selling them from the sites they just payme because they dont have net acess so i get and honest middle man tip.

I've actually considered doing this myself. students don't need a vendors license to sell things on campus (dirty hippies everywhere selling hand made goods as a result)

I just don't have good enough of an income to order a good quantity of starter kits from ruyan direct at the moment =/