Big Tobacco strategy

[Lorddrek]

I think I have figured out what Big Tobacco is planning to do with E-Cigs. They are holding out for a better price. Of course this all rides on respecting copyright laws and that I know little about. Why pay a premium for the rights when it is sure to take a beating in the future? I'll bet they are running tests and trials right now.

[Relentless]

This is exactly what they are doing. Guaranteed they are two things:

1 - Pissed they were beat to the punch
2- Glad the premarketing has been done for them

You can bet they have their own models in development right now.

[bri1270]

And what this does is increase the cost to the consumer, and provide a tax base for the government.

[Boston George]

Big tobacco will always continue to make money. Altria Group, Inc. is one of the richest and best run companies on the planet.

Currently they are attempting to snuff out e-cigs. If e-cigs thrive, tobacco sales will decline. It's that simple. So the ban or delay (3-5 years) of the sale of e-cigs is in their best interest.

In the event that the FDA does not stop all e-cigs, the game changes. Then it becomes in their best interest to own the biggest chunk of the e-cig pie. They will buy out the manufacturers and reduce the competition. They will charge more for an inferior product, because again, they want people smoking tobacco not vaping.

We are going to fight the FDA for them and at the end of the day big tobacco will still be making money.

[Lorddrek]

An interesting theory BG. Very possible. They certainly want to see the whole E-Cig scene beat down a bit. But I cannot see them dismissing how truly superior E-Cigarettes are to analogs. Sure on the surface they might want to see a quick death but any forward thinker can see with a little fine tuning this IS the future of smoking.

Lorddrek

[Abram_J]

If e-cigs thrive, tobacco sales will decline.

Not neccasarily, where do you think the nicotine comes from for our e-juice? I could see there tobacco sales increasing actually. I assume that it takes a very large amount of tobacco to extract the liquid nicotine that is in our e-juice!

They will charge more for an inferior product, because again, they want people smoking tobacco not vaping.

Why would they? They would rather have there customers dieing? There probably excited as hell because as I said at first, I think it takes more tobacco to make the e-juice and there customers wont be dieing on them!

[Boston George]

Abram_J,
most if not all e-juice on the market today has synthetic nicotine. No tobacco required.

[esmok-e]

Philip Morris used to have our trademark for esmoke. They've been trying for many years to do a device. Other big tobacco have tried to patent the idea in the US every which way they can, also for many years. You can check this all on the US Patent site and google.

At this point they might muscle or try to buy whoever is biggest and most legit , patent and product. They have not been sitting on their hands - but how it plays out ? They've been involved in Europe and the states for a long time.

[Calaban]

Abram_J,
most if not all e-juice on the market today has synthetic nicotine. No tobacco required.

Interesting. I have not heard this before. Can you point me to where you got this information?

[tokarev]

Interesting. I have not heard this before. Can you point me to where you got this information?

I would like to know the source of this information as well. My Google search for "synthetic nicotine" only leads to references to lobeline or other nicotine "substitutes". A search for nicotine manufacture or production leads only to the tobacco plant.

TT33