The Australian ban

[breno]

Originally Posted by PlanetScribbles

Queensland

Thought so, but Austrailia is not Queensland as far as I am aware!!

[DaShiVa]

queensland is an aussie state. covers mebbe 1/6th of australia (just guessing)

[mpalmer22]

Hi everyone

I am only just learning of the electronic cigarettes and would like to import some to Australia.

I would like to know of the legal status of the electronic cigarettes:
1. Are they legal to use in all the states of Australia?
2. What is the legal status of them in other countries?
3. Does E-cigs have a bright future ahead of them?

I am currently at the factory that produces these cigarettes in Shenzen, China. Problem is not many people here speak English so all I can really do is observe their manufacturing process. They seem to have many certificates of conformity and approval from tests conducted at laboratories, so I don't understand how they can be dangerous if they have already been tested.

Thanks guys

[brytnee1234]

all i know is they are not illegal in oregon

[novasteve]

Lemme guess, liberal nanny staters passed that one because they don't like nicotine?

[Skyspider]

I am in Queensland, Australia. I just stated vaping and i had no problems at all importing my gear and juice so far. I got the Joye510 starter kits plus some extra carts, and a bottle of juice, my package wasnt even opened at customs. I will be ordering more juice soon, i will keep letting you all know if i face any problems at all or not, hopefully not lol

[MsSki]

My thoughts and Prayers for those down under.
Tara

[Vocalek]

Question: If nicotine e-cig cartridges are banned because they contain the poison nicotine, how does that affect the status of Nicotrol inhalers? How about tobacco cigarettes? I've heard they contain nicotine .

If all the poisons are banned in Australia, how do you folks get anything clean? Unstop your clogged drains?

[Dogsbody]

In Oz,

NRTs were only sold at chemists/pharmacies and more recently at major supermarkets and you can also get gum and lozenges at petrol stations (sometimes).
They are very expensive (eg:$40 for a box of 72 lozenges).

The loss in tax revenue conspiracy theory isn't as applicable in counties with free health care, as the government has maintained for years that smoking related illness costs them more than they raise in tax dollars from smokers. (a pack of cigs 25's is about $12-$15 dollars!)

The main problem with e-cigs is the lack of testing, and as nicotine liquid is classed as a grade 4 poison, it cannot be sold to the general public.

There is a massive no-smoking anywhere push country wide and e-cigs have just been caught up in that, the e-cig looks and acts like a cig so the government just banned it, probably thinking it was pretty much the same as a normal cig, but potentially more dangerous because of the lack of thorough testing.

Here I think big Pharma and big tobacco stand to lose more than the government, and they could be contributing, but to me it just seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to everything cigarette related, Criminal Ignorance.

I have had about 10 e-cig and liquid shipments all delivered and unopened.
I was unaware that the device was now banned, I thought it was just the liquid.

So here we have the stupid contradiction that you can buy cigarettes on every street corner but something much less harmful to both first and second hand smokers, and much more successful to help people quit tobacco, is banned.

In time they will probably be re-assessed and mass-marketed but for now to those that govern, it just seems dangerous for people carry around and inhale vials of cheap, potent poison.

Hopefully New Zealand, the UK and the USA will keep being our lab rats so they can examine the results down the track.

I do think the tobacco companies will pick it up, get it regulated or available in a safer form- eg: prefilled cartos only, bringing a new wave of PHarma NRTs vs Tobacco NRTs for people to bounce between.

[redmondaus]

Originally Posted by Skyspider

I am in Queensland, Australia. I just stated vaping and i had no problems at all importing my gear and juice so far. I got the Joye510 starter kits plus some extra carts, and a bottle of juice, my package wasnt even opened at customs. I will be ordering more juice soon, i will keep letting you all know if i face any problems at all or not, hopefully not lol

well guys im in QLD - got a package yesterday from China that had an "opened by customs" note - all clear - it had a k808d starter kit and 3 x 10ml bottles of juice plus cartomizers.. then today i got another package from a US supplier with 4 x 5ml juice and cartomizers.. no opened note.. both packages arrived with everything in them...

I think if you bring in a heap of juice and look like a distributor you might have issues, but they don't seem to care for personal use..

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